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Joss Weatherby
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Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
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Jan-17-2012 10:00
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pointPi
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Location: In big trouble
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Maybe I didn't clearly express what I wanted to express. I'm not saying that people that get offended should always scream "bigot!" at the very least hint of offence. The offended do actually have some sort of responsibilty.
Let us say you belong to a certain racial, sexual and/or social minority, and somebody says something about that minority that offends you. In that situation, it's very likely that the reason you're offended by that statement, is because that statement is pure bullshit. The one who said so and really meant it, doesn't know about that.
If you go ahead and just scream 'bigot' at him/her, that person is very likely to be more attached to that statement, because (s)he doesn't know that exactly why that statement was bigoted.
What I'm trying to say is that responding to people expressing logically fallacious statements with emotional reactions, isn't really the best thing to do. You should respond to those people just like in all the other occasions some one is wrong, BY PROVING THE THEY'RE FUCKING WRONG!
E.g., if you're homosexual and you meet some that claims "******s don't do anything but spreading AIDS", don't get all sad and call them evil. Just stay calm and PROVE THEM WRONG!
If you're a Muslim and you find out that that Danish douchebag has drawn another "satirical", claiming that all Muslims are violent, going into rage mode will only prove his point. Again, show Mr. Pølse how HE IS WRONG.
If you belong to a racial minority and you had to listen to a redneck's 20 minute lecture about why you should 'go back to your own country', don't respond with "I WAS EXTREMELY OFFENDED AND YOU ARE MADE OF HITLER'S LEAVINGS!" Confront that son of a bitch with the hard facts that declares all of his arguments bogus, PROVE HIM WRONG!
So that's all I wanted to say about this subject. Prejudice should be responded with hard facts and logic rather than with emotional outcries, because that's the only way to getting rid of it.
| quote: | Originally posted by Chimney
Bullshit mentality like this which turned Sweden from an upstanding respected country to a shit-infested hole with daily murders and rape. |
Sweden has pretty much always been a shit-infested hole with daily murders and rape. The only differences are that the hidden statistics are decreasing and that the 'daily murder and rape' has gotten more media attention.
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Jan-17-2012 17:22
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EddieZilker
This is the dance.

Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp
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| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
Political Correctness has a place in society, but like everything out there can be used/abused to an extreme sometimes. I think that people need to "loosen up" a little; but on the other hand with political freedom does come responsibility. People just need to use moderation is all. |
Sounds like something a white, male, hetero-non-transgenderific, Christian would say.
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| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think most people don't even really understand what prejudice is, or when it's happening. I think most people who watch their tongue still hold prejudices, and only keep them quiet because there's this culture of political correctness that punishes them. The trouble with this is twofold:
1. Ambient social bigotry still exists and expresses itself in more subtle but still damaging ways, but because nobody vocalises it they can deny its existence, and so it becomes harder to deal with.
2. There becomes a culture of censorship where artists and even comedians cannot make valid expressions without being accused of bigotry or prejudice by people incapable of understanding concepts like irony or the separation of author and protagonist.
So, in a way I do agree. "Political correctness" as a social movement is well-meaning but somewhat counter-productive, and we could do with a more intelligent approach to dealing with problems of prejudice. On the other hand, the OP is almost certainly a complete prick if he equates bigotry with "speaking your mind". |
Ridiculously well put.
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Jan-17-2012 18:05
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EddieZilker
This is the dance.

Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp
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Jan-17-2012 18:18
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