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Originally posted by Raphie WAVES API

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Originally posted by Raphie What did they expect? it's SOFTWARE, an ALGORITM and it has nothing to with traditional compression techiques. The difference is in the plug&play and presets that come with these people tend to cycle through presets find the sound they like and then suddenly that's there new "go to compressor" It's a sign of the times, people don't learn how to use a compressor anymore, they get dickhard on a gui and just mix and match presets until they have lucky shot and stick with that. So ITB i stick with DAW plugs (in my case Cubase6) and I'm very busy selling all my other plugs (sold SSL duende already, WAVES API Collection and SONNOX are next)I've stopped with the VST rat race last year and will not be sucked into it again.

I definitely agree with you that people just seem to find a compressor plugin with the right preset. I wonder if that's what the reviewer did because the settings on all the compressors are not even remotely related. I am somewhat convinced the poster of that article is completely unfamiliar with compression techniques.

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest I definitely agree with you that people just seem to find a compressor plugin with the right preset.

How do you figure that? I can't say I've ever seen someone say "I use compressor x because preset z is awesome"

Unless your speaking from your own experiences with compressors?

yeah yeah, bla bla, we all claim to be that engineer that don't use presets. Maybe a few aside, but at least 75% of TA falls into the fruity noob category working with exactly that "a bunch of presets of their ever expanding collection of pirated plugins"
Don't feel offended Cryo, as you don't fall into this category, but without getting personal this is the market........

And my point was not that software can't beat hardware, one vanilla compressor is more than enough. definately on moderate settings, on more extreme settings all software plugins sound shite...

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lol

software can and does beat hardware in so many ways. And you are part of the group of noobs using presets. You've admitted this yourself. Kettles and shit. You are part of that sad pathetic producers that couldn't do it so they moved to mastering because even engineering , they couldn't hack it. This trend of people becoming mastering engineers before being able to actually mix is fucking funny. You are an industry joke. You are a hobbyist which is fine but the second you start acting like anything more, it is annoying , it is funny and it is sadly far too common. Stop posing as a professional. You aren't. Not by a long shot.


If you need a preset for a compressor , i mean it takes longer to cue up a preset than it does to move the 4 parameters on a compressor.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Feb-09-2012 at 20:54

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that most software compressors I own only came with a half dozen presets and I don't think I've ever owned or used a hardware compressor with any presets, or the ability to store presets. Why not? The reason is simple - it's a totally source-dependent effect, not something that lends itself to presets. I disagree that most people here just slap compressor presets on their tracks and call it good. As L4C pointed out, it's 4 parameters, all of which are relatively simple to understand. Complete newbs (i.e, people who have NEVER used a compressor), maybe, but that's only a small minority. Maybe a poll is in order.

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Originally posted by Andy28 How do you figure that? I can't say I've ever seen someone say "I use compressor x because preset z is awesome" Unless your speaking from your own experiences with compressors?

I must admit that when I first started out I certainly did use presets. And it took me years to find other compressors I liked better. I mean, I'm not perfect. And yes, I have seen my friends produce and they just use presets. Learning how to do compression is a completely different skill set then learning how to write a track. So of course they used presets because a month-six months into producing music, they don't have enough time to learn how to do compression let alone how to write a proper track.

Granted, for years I have never needed presets for compressors, and quite frankly I have no idea, knowing what I know now, how you would even benefit from using a preset.

Maybe you guys are just so old and senile you've forgotten your past?

nope

some people just lazy, some aren't. I never understood the point of using a preset for an EQ or a compressor. It doesn't make any sense. You use an eq or a compressor because you have a reason for it. So the parameters are already decided before you even add it. So really, i just don't see how anyone would use a preset. UNless as Dave said, they just started producing and are curious,.

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Originally posted by Raphie Don't feel offended Cryo, as you don't fall into this category

Yeah because he don't use fruity

I bet most use presets, but not for the point your making about compressors. Find it hard to believe you even mention that at all since you love nexus so much, not that it matters, again alot of users on here probably do aswell (including myself) but were all pirating noobs