It's a funny thing to think about what turns a track into a 'Classic Track'. I saw you guys posting here that a Classic Track should be a popular track too, but hey, also it has to be good right? . If this is right, perhaps our concept of a Classic Tune can change dramatically.

Nowadays it seems the majority of popular tracks are shitty and the underground ones are the REAL good music, specially in EDM scene. Just an example: Armin van Buuren - In And Out Of Love is an example of a VERY VERY VERY popular track and i bet a lot o people will say it's a Classic, but c'mon.....really? That shit tune will be a Classic? So this is an example of a crap popular track.

Now an example of fabulous tune that never will become a Classic: Digital Blonde - Rainsong. In my opinion it's such an original Trance tune that defines creativity and musical knowledge from the producer, but c'mon....really? "Who the fuck is Digital Blonde"?

That being said, i can only see hard times for the new Classics.

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The Digital Blonde is an average producer, and Rainsong is an average song.

Just because you think it's something special doesn't mean it is. If that were the case, "classic" would have no meaning, since every single person's favorite songs could be called classics by them.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

While everything said so far is more or less true, and popularity at the end plays a significant role even for people who aren't normally affected by it, deterioration of dance music (and I believe that most of people are referring to dance music here) certainly shouldn't be neglected. Dance music had long passed its zenith and that's perfectly fine - genres we associate with modern EDM today are more than 25 years old, and it's no wonder that the music has exhausted itself in the mean time. Its limitations certainly didn't help, especially since every attempt of envelope pushing and boundary expansion diverted the emphasis from its functionality. That doesn't mean dance music is dead. It just means that conditions for a track to be called classic increased significantly, and that present and future classics will have to offer something really exceptional to outshadow the established collective classics (which can, ironically, even appear banal and ordinary compared to this new stuff). That will surely happen from time to time, but the 90s (in relation to EDM) and the atmosphere of freshness and originality that adorned it will never repeat again. Kinda like 60s in psychedelic rock and 70s in funk or progressive rock never repeated after.

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nah, i find new classics everyday. so much shit out there yes, so much music spanning so many generations means there will always be enough classics to grease the anuses on a greek freighter.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos Something from Ian Van Dahl, Vengaboys, Sash... might be considered a classic so will David Guetta - Sexy Bitch be a classic? The whole edm has gone to the bin even commercial tracks are shittier , maybe there are some good tracks around 2005 but i doubt you can find a classic by definition after 2010. Let's wait till 2030 and see

that's a very pessimistic outlook.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos I doubt you can find a classic by definition after 2010. Let's wait till 2030 and see

Justice begs to differ.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 The Digital Blonde is an average producer, and Rainsong is an average song. Just because you think it's something special doesn't mean it is. If that were the case, "classic" would have no meaning, since every single person's favorite songs could be called classics by them.

I just took an example of an underground track that i think it's good. I'm not saying this track is 'officially' good or classic, it's just a personal choice.

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Originally posted by Beatflux You're suffering from nostalgia.

Not at all, and if you think that you've basically misread this as a negative thread. Anyone who knows me on here knows my agenda is essentially anti-nostalgia. People tend to latch onto superficial observations like "There's no classics anymore" and use that as a stick to beat modern music with.

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Originally posted by sljiva While everything said so far is more or less true, and popularity at the end plays a significant role even for people who aren't normally affected by it, deterioration of dance music (and I believe that most of people are referring to dance music here) certainly shouldn't be neglected. Dance music had long passed its zenith and that's perfectly fine - genres we associate with modern EDM today are more than 25 years old, and it's no wonder that the music has exhausted itself in the mean time.

A couple of points here: classics exist almost independent of personal taste, and personal classics are relative to taste. Also, the genres we associate with EDM today sound nothing like they did 25 years ago - play a deep house, trance, progressive or drum 'n bass track against its original namesake and you'll often be hard-pressed to recognise any similarities at all.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 The Digital Blonde is an average producer, and Rainsong is an average song. Just because you think it's something special doesn't mean it is. If that were the case, "classic" would have no meaning, since every single person's favorite songs could be called classics by them.

The digital blonde is/was fucking amazing, the psybient version of his last album is a piece of art. And the Europa EP is legendary.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

Aren't other genres like rock suffering of this too?

Many classics also had something which was sounding unlike anything before e.g.: Speedy J - Pull Over.

Very few tracks nowadays have something unique, although they still might sound very good.
I just think the curve of changes in time has become pretty flat.

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