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Originally posted by Filthy One Like I said before I made it all on some shitty speakers, I will be fixing that soon. I wanted to meet someone who I could bounce ideas off. The loop was just thrown together to show the kind of style I was going for. I have already changed it after some advice from a friend, and updated the clip. I will be able to clean it all up soon. Im a newb when it comes to producing, but I have been dj for 12 years, and have played with some really big names. Elite Force, Donald Glaude, Dj Dan, Hatiras, Meat Katie, Lee Coombs, Josh The Funky 1, Bad Boy Bill, Dylan Rhymes, Eddie Halliwell, Downlink, Ill Gates, Freq Nasty, Love & Light, Opiou, LowRiderz, David Starfire, Vibesqsquad, Keith Mackenzie, and the list goes on. So you could say I'm not to worried about your snide comment about my djing.

You haven't played with Sasha or Digweed????

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 I am not judging you on your tracks, I certainly am no pro. It is just annoying to me that people can't see why begging people to follow them (not in this thread but in others you started) is such a lame and bad thing to do. It is an egocentric mindset. 'I don't listen to anyone elses stuff, but they should listen to mine'. 'I don't comment on anyone elses tracks they post, but everyone should comment on mine'. When I was a kid an MLM marketer basically barged his way into my parents house and when my parents didn't want to buy his stupid product, he called them 'jerks'. Never mind the fact HE doesn't like it when telemarketers call him, or when people come to his door, it is different when HE is the one who wants to be the next millionaire selling knives or soap or whatever. People have decided to skip straight to the marketing of themselves without a good product or even a finished product. I am not trying to be a jerk, you may be a great guy, I don't really get off on getting angry at people online. But this type of mentality just clutters everything and makes good content drown out. It is a big reason why many labels and DJs don't accept demo's or promo's respectively.

Whats annoying to me is some kid with a midi controller and a laptop whos probably never even touched a turntable but learned how to use fruity loops is trying to tell me how it is. You have 50 follower on soundcloud, maybe you should promote yourself.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 My advice, and now I am no longer in forumjerk mode, is to wait to promote yourself. Get your feet for producing first. Putting up tracks and asking for help is different than asking people to follow you on soundcloud or facebook. Once you are ready, promotion should be focused at labels and DJs. Average fans are never going to make you famous. Avicci (like practically everyone who is anyone in Dance) got Pete Tongs attention, not a bunch of individual fans on soundcloud.

I have been djing for 12 years, please stop talking to me like im a child. I have made huge leaps and bounds from promoting. I already have labels asking me about my clips, and working on remixes with a few well known artist. You may not like the clutter but maybe you should think about promoting, and you wouldnt still be working so hard after 2 years.

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Originally posted by Filthy One Whats annoying to me is some kid with a midi controller and a laptop whos probably never even touched a turntable but learned how to use fruity loops is trying to tell me how it is. You have 50 follower on soundcloud, maybe you should promote yourself.

Also I give feedback all the time. I just do most of it on soundcloud. I just got on this forum.

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Originally posted by Filthy One Whats annoying to me is some kid with a midi controller and a laptop whos probably never even touched a turntable but learned how to use fruity loops is trying to tell me how it is. You have 50 follower on soundcloud, maybe you should promote yourself.

Woah brah.

Don't get started with me. I don't even have a midi controller, just Fruity, a laptop and a pair of headphones. So don't tell me about speaka's.

And on the contrary, I have the heart of a DJ not a producer. I have touched turntables. I bought a Pioneer CDJ 800 with money from my first job, and a CDJ 200 to go with it to save money. That was when I was 18. Then I learned the harsh reality that the only path to the DJ booth these days is as a producer.

I don't want to promote myself. I send demos to labels who have influence. So far, I have been rejected. I can handle it. If I am not good enough for them, I am not ready to have followers on soundcloud. I have never asked a single person to follow me on any social media platform. If that means I have less followers, so be it.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Woah brah. Don't get started with me. I don't even have a midi controller, just Fruity, a laptop and a pair of headphones. So don't tell me about speaka's. And on the contrary, I have the heart of a DJ not a producer. I have touched turntables. I bought a Pioneer CDJ 800 with money from my first job, and a CDJ 200 to go with it to save money. That was when I was 18. Then I learned the harsh reality that the only path to the DJ booth these days is as a producer. I don't want to promote myself. I send demos to labels who have influence. So far, I have been rejected. I can handle it. If I am not good enough for them, I am not ready to have followers on soundcloud. I have never asked a single person to follow me on any social media platform. If that means I have less followers, so be it.

Well I have done just fine getting big gigs without having to be a producer. Maybe because I do promote. Im glad you learned to dj on cdjs. How old are you now? It sucks the most people have this mentality. So many great producers that are the worst djs. I don't think your a good dj unless you can a transform or flare. I would love to hear a mix of yours.

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Originally posted by Filthy One Well I have done just fine getting big gigs without having to be a producer. Maybe because I do promote. Im glad you learned to dj on cdjs. How old are you now? It sucks the most people have this mentality. So many great producers that are the worst djs. I don't think your a good dj unless you can a transform or flare. I would love to hear a mix of yours.

I'm 23 now.

I agree that the producer/dj connection is weak at best. DJing is its own skill. Guys like Carl Cox or Danny Tenaglia are real DJs. Also, producers just play their own tracks half the time.

The only set of mine I have access to right now is this one. It isn't groundbreaking stuff but I do kind of build it up and bring it down in 1 hour. It's prolly blocked in some countries but whatev



I will listen to a couple of yours as well. Eddie Halliwell, DJ Dan, Bad Boy Bill and Elite Force are a few pretty big names. I think Halliwell is a great presence and energy especially.

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Oh, you kids! You don't know what it's like. I've lost more sound-cloud followers than you two could put together. Hard to believe, but I know! I've seen it all. Six turntables, at the same time? Done it. Blow in a 32" spiral line off a record before the transition? Done it. Letting Tiesto have a go at my girlfriend for 15 minutes off of his set? Done it.

I've whored myself out with the best of them and I come here and what do I see? A bunch of wet-behind-the-ears punks! I used to have a full blown studio. 32 tracks linked ADAT. A 24 channel mixing board. An Atari 1040 STe with Unitor MIDI/SEMPTE expansion. I put $150,000 into that studio and lost it all one night because I made a bet with DJ Skribble that I'd go more than 45 minutes without a train-wreck. He also got to fuck my girlfriend, but I did get some blow out of it.

My point? I don't have one. Shit. Well I used to, but now I can't get it up anymore. But I digress. My point is, you little pencil-dicked punks, is that promotion is the high art and science of whoring yourself out. No. That's the moral of the story. Anyway. You get my drift. Ah, my drift is whore... yada yada.






Got any coke?

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I don't drink soda :P

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oh, you kids! You don't know what it's like. I've lost more sound-cloud followers than you two could put together. Hard to believe, but I know! I've seen it all. Six turntables, at the same time? Done it. Blow in a 32" spiral line off a record before the transition? Done it. Letting Tiesto have a go at my girlfriend for 15 minutes off of his set? Done it. I've whored myself out with the best of them and I come here and what do I see? A bunch of wet-behind-the-ears punks! I used to have a full blown studio. 32 tracks linked ADAT. A 24 channel mixing board. An Atari 1040 STe with Unitor MIDI/SEMPTE expansion. I put $150,000 into that studio and lost it all one night because I made a bet with DJ Skribble that I'd go more than 45 minutes without a train-wreck. He also got to fuck my girlfriend, but I did get some blow out of it. My point? I don't have one. Shit. Well I used to, but now I can't get it up anymore. But I digress. My point is, you little pencil-dicked punks, is that promotion is the high art and science of whoring yourself out. No. That's the moral of the story. Anyway. You get my drift. Ah, my drift is whore... yada yada. Got any coke?

I like your point. Whores! LOL Maybe you should stop letting people fuck your girlfriend and trainwecking. You got some links?

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Originally posted by Filthy One I like your point. Whores! LOL Maybe you should stop letting people fuck your girlfriend and trainwecking. You got some links?

It's not my fault I wreck out. Fuggin' producers don't ever do stuff that keeps proper time. The moment I get it in the mix and it starts slipping. Next thing I know - two fuggin' shoes in the dryer. My point? Whores!

Look at my signature. Every time I post - it's a whore-down. And my girlfriend is a whore, anyway. Specially since my wank stopped wankin' because of my intolerable $5,000 per week coke habit.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 I don't drink soda :P

you dumb as a kangaroo