speaking of cameras... whats everyone's opinion on the canon dos t3i (rebel)? I just picked that up the other day based on a friends recommendation. still have about 10 day warranty on it but if anyone can advise something better for the same price (around 700 before taxes + warnty) id love to hear your input

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Originally posted by kamil

What are you recommending then for DSLR in that price range? Canon 2-Ti? 3-Ti? Nikon 3100/5100?

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Originally posted by RapidFire speaking of cameras... whats everyone's opinion on the canon dos t3i (rebel)? I just picked that up the other day based on a friends recommendation. still have about 10 day warranty on it but if anyone can advise something better for the same price (around 700 before taxes + warnty) id love to hear your input

Good entry level DSLR. If you're serious about making great photos but not able to spend Stu type money I'd say skip the Rebel entry line and go straight to a 60D or 7D (I have a 60 and love it).

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

i bought a canon powershot digital elph sd1000 for about $200 several years ago, really happy with it. Far from professional but when you adjust the settings to maximize image quality it's a great little camera

EDIT: I wanna say that all these new cameras default with shit-quality settings to make you think you have to spend more money to get a better product. Same with HD TVs

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Good entry level DSLR. If you're serious about making great photos but not able to spend Stu type money I'd say skip the Rebel entry line and go straight to a 60D or 7D (I have a 60 and love it).

ah, interesting. would you say its good enough in regards to video? I bought it more for that reason, to shoot some music videos on a slightly above amateur level.

I am currently letting go of my Nikon gear, because i am going to move to the Leica M system.

Nevertheless, I suggest Nikon over Canon. They are better built and produce better lenses. Lenses are also backward compatible so you can use ones from the 70s that still produce great quality. Try looking for a D300 used on eBay. Its a great machine and durable. If you dont need video, this is a great choice.
You can then get a fast lens such as the 35mm F1.8 DX.

This would be an affordable kit for you. Dont listen to Ken Rockwell though, hes a fkhead.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean I am currently letting go of my Nikon gear, because i am going to move to the Leica M system. Nevertheless, I suggest Nikon over Canon. They are better built and produce better lenses. Lenses are also backward compatible so you can use ones from the 70s that still produce great quality. Try looking for a D300 used on eBay. Its a great machine and durable. If you dont need video, this is a great choice. You can then get a fast lens such as the 35mm F1.8 DX. This would be an affordable kit for you. Dont listen to Ken Rockwell though, hes a fkhead.

Thats false information youre giving right there.

Both Canons and Nikons are built well. Both have great lenses, NEITHER have 'better' in general as both manufacturers have lenses that are better and worse than the other, case in point

Canon 24-70mm vs. Nikon 24-70mm (the Nikon is better, apparently)

and

Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 MKII vs Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8

I know for damn sure the Canon 70-200mm slaps the Nikon equivalent around.

Also, in terms of old lenses compatibility, how often would you use any of them and how many would anyone even have? Dont they lack autofocus as well? Why spend cash on a new body and then more cash on inferior lenses??

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Originally posted by phyrrus What are you recommending then for DSLR in that price range? Canon 2-Ti? 3-Ti? Nikon 3100/5100?

I wouldnt know, but i think the t3i has 1080p recording, if so, I'd just get that. I've used the t2i to make a short video clip, and the image quality was spectacular.

I dont like Nikons because;

a) they never offered a dSLR camera below 1k when I got into photography (I started off on the original Canon Digital Rebel 8 years ago)
b) their User Interface and controls are fucking terrible.

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Originally posted by kamil Thats false information youre giving right there. Both Canons and Nikons are built well. Both have great lenses, NEITHER have 'better' in general as both manufacturers have lenses that are better and worse than the other, case in point Canon 24-70mm vs. Nikon 24-70mm (the Nikon is better, apparently) and Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 MKII vs Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 I know for damn sure the Canon 70-200mm slaps the Nikon equivalent around. Also, in terms of old lenses compatibility, how often would you use any of them and how many would anyone even have? Dont they lack autofocus as well? Why spend cash on a new body and then more cash on inferior lenses??

just what a canon user would say....I'll agree that maybe bodies and some of the zooms are the same.

Nikon has a 14 - 24 2.8 zoom which Canon lacks, it does produce excellent images, even Canon would agree...not that I use zooms, I use primes., Car Zeiss ones. I use a Noct NIkkor 58mm f/1.2 which is AI, this is just one example of a lens I need a camera to read.

I use all manual, I dont use Autofocus..or anything auto so..if you like the camera to make your decision for you...knock yourself out with new auto lenses.

The truth is the best lenses dont use auto focusing..(Voigtlander 125mm F2.5 APO Lanthar) comes to mind..

If you want to go Canon, I am not saying stay away, but Nikon is where it's at for me.

and thats bullshit that the user interface and controls are terrible...everything is where you want it to be. It is a more expensive brand sure, but in photography the phrase you get what you pay for can not be more true.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean just what a canon user would say....

Just what a Nikon user would say

Honestly, Canon and Nikon are so close in terms of quality, it's not even worth arguing about. They both have different products available, such as the lens you mentioned, so choose the one that best suits your photography.

Anyone who knows their camera shit, knows that

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thats true honestly its best to try them and see what you like the best..in the end its just a tool for the means...

I love your photos sushi, as you know!