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Originally posted by Blake Everyone else just needs to get it together, and work!

You can't get a job without having a fixed address.
You can't get a fixed address without money.
You can't get money without a job.

This is why homeless charities try to create hostels that people can use as an address while they get back on their feet. Unfortunately, there are never enough places or jobs to cope with demand, and some people always go without.

When I can afford to - i.e., when I'm employed myself - I give something (when I can tell they're not full of shit.)

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Originally posted by Intellekshual You can't get a job without having a fixed address. You can't get a fixed address without money. You can't get money without a job. This is why homeless charities try to create hostels that people can use as an address while they get back on their feet. Unfortunately, there are never enough places or jobs to cope with demand, and some people always go without. When I can afford to - i.e., when I'm employed myself - I give something (when I can tell they're not full of shit.)

I usually do the same - and, when I suspect someone's trying to fool me, I still tend to be polite and redirect the failed con artist to a city shelter (the offer is always declined because it involves actual work). I also tend to be more charitable towards informal workers, because even though they don't have a steady and secure job, at least they're trying to do something honest to earn a living.

What shocked me about this woman is how much she took for granted her right to score free food. She behaved almost as if it was everyone else's duty - and, no, she wouldn't take a "yes, but please wait" for an answer.

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Originally posted by Lira That stuff also happens here, Blake, but whereas they usually ask for money, this is the first time I've seen someone beg for food when they didn't have to.

Yeah, that's pretty wild. I've seen beggars turn down food, or even laugh in the face of someone offering them food, and brag about their checking accounts, but the kind of person you described is, for lack of better term, undead. People like that simply enjoy feeding off of the living. It's what gives them strength, because they have not yet cultivated any significant amount of their own inner strength. Those kinds of people cannot be helped, and IMHO they'll remain here, doing the same BS, for however many lifetimes it takes for them to want to help themselves.

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Originally posted by Lira What shocked me about this woman is how much she took for granted her right to score free food. She behaved almost as if it was everyone else's duty - and, no, she wouldn't take a "yes, but please wait" for an answer.

Entitlement is a disease, rampant and manifest everywhere you go. People who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.
She was with child, and I'd be nice otherwise but, frankly, people like that can suck my ass.

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In all seriousness, though, I bought a meal for a drifter/bum before. I happened to be outside at a cafe enjoying a fantastic meal when he came by and asked if I would be willing to give him the left-overs (he had an adorable, mangy mutt with him, too). I offered to buy him dinner and to sit down with me.

He was pretty cool and had some amazing stories to tell. His dog was chill as well, too.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I probably wake up QWOPing.

Lots of hobophobes here!

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Lots of hobophobes here!

We are quite clearly hamophobes, the chick with the kid was apparently fat.

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Does anyone here take their shirt off to take a shit?

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I'll never forget the time a hobo came up to my friends and I saying "spare some change? anything helps..." and my friend dug into his pocket to pull out his change which was roughly 50 cents in nickels and dimes. With a disgusted look on his face, the guy actually refused.

Also, Blake: your story about the lady on the subway is fucked but that isn't a new tactic by any means. At least she treats her kid well. I don't know if they still do this today, but, in India (and elsewhere I'm sure), professional beggar type groups would enlist stray kids to beg for them and maim the kids so they'd get more money. It wasn't uncommon to hear of a mother of four taking her youngest, feeblest child out begging with her, wrapping it in a cloth, and not feeding it with the money she made (instead using it to feed its older siblings). After the baby died, she'd keep begging with it. Anyway, people who did this wouldn't view it as a bad thing, as hinduism teaches that children who die such deaths will be reincarnated as royalty.

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Originally posted by Intellekshual We are quite clearly hamophobes, the chick with the kid was apparently fat.

You stole this from one of the greatest comic minds of our times!

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On You stole this from one of the greatest comic minds of our times!

Yes, you.

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