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MIKE333ACE
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quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Yeah bassline is fine. Kick is still a little boomy though. Did you ever check out figuring out how to mess with the envelope of your kick sample? You can shorten the kick by shortening the sustain, but play around with it... may not be just the kick drum sample. But it just boils down to a matter of taste, seems fine. However, if you listen to things like FSOE and Daniel Kandi the kick is more powerful and short.

I know it's just supposed to demonstrate the bassline, but it does get quite repetitive. Automating filters and delay can have awesome effects for this kind of bassline though.

Thanks for this, I'll try shortening the kick a bit, and yeah, when the track is finished it'll be full of awesome filter sweeps and effects like that, so dw :P

Thanks once again


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Evolve140
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No problem. What I would do is create a solid chord progression. Then, take that bassline you've developed and loop an 8 bar with the bassline playing the bass note of each chord in the progression. Then, choose a piano or polyphonic instrument that can play your chords fully, to give you an idea of the melodic and harmonic aspects of the progression you've selected, then you can have a foundation to write melody and figure out where a hook might lay, and where your melodic counter point exists. Good trance tracks have excellent melody and counter point.

what you have now is basically just production without real music - it never hurts to have a good mixdown and good instruments, although, it's actually easier to produce well than it is to write good songs. the musicality of your track will depend more on the actual chord progression, melody and counter point. you may not be able to play it in a club (hypothetically, a track that isn't well produced but has musical qualities - production seems to be way easier than quality song writing, there are tons of over produced tracks lacking musicality played out in clubs everywhere) but at least it has musical components. don't forget, great melodies are forged through the rhythm and timing of the composition just as they are with note selection, so keep that in mind for your overall groove once you do get to that point.

i won't rant on, just work hard unabated, and maybe even without feedback for a couple weeks, to let your own mechanisms go to work. you must develop musical problem solving skills internally, which i'm sure you're trying to do, but try to do your own thing and see how well that goes. if you hit a brick wall, there's always the forum.

cheeeyas matey

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MIKE333ACE
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quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
No problem. What I would do is create a solid chord progression. Then, take that bassline you've developed and loop an 8 bar with the bassline playing the bass note of each chord in the progression. Then, choose a piano or polyphonic instrument that can play your chords fully, to give you an idea of the melodic and harmonic aspects of the progression you've selected, then you can have a foundation to write melody and figure out where a hook might lay, and where your melodic counter point exists. Good trance tracks have excellent melody and counter point.

what you have now is basically just production without real music - it never hurts to have a good mixdown and good instruments, although, it's actually easier to produce well than it is to write good songs. the musicality of your track will depend more on the actual chord progression, melody and counter point. you may not be able to play it in a club (hypothetically, a track that isn't well produced but has musical qualities - production seems to be way easier than quality song writing, there are tons of over produced tracks lacking musicality played out in clubs everywhere) but at least it has musical components. don't forget, great melodies are forged through the rhythm and timing of the composition just as they are with note selection, so keep that in mind for your overall groove once you do get to that point.

i won't rant on, just work hard unabated, and maybe even without feedback for a couple weeks, to let your own mechanisms go to work. you must develop musical problem solving skills internally, which i'm sure you're trying to do, but try to do your own thing and see how well that goes. if you hit a brick wall, there's always the forum.

cheeeyas matey

Cheers, I already have a main melody. I'm just trying to find a way to integrate it into the track. And yeah, i guess experimenting myself is the best way to learn how to do so.

Here are the 2 possible melodies i may use for the track if you want to hear them. Do you think they could work??

http://www.sendspace.com/file/g3dchq

Cheers


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Evolve140
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what is this? just upload to SC and embed mang

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MIKE333ACE
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what is this? just upload to SC and embed mang

lol, its a midi. anyway, im soon going to upload what i have so far onto soundcloud cos ive finally made some progress. I'll most likely do it tomorrow.


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