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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Domain names should become available again after say 28 days if they're not used, and if the original owner wanted to sit on it, it should become progressively more expensive to do so.


There was a whole debate about this a few years back, and it came to a climax over a UK web address.

Basically, this guy had snapped up baa.com, shortly after the British Aerospace Association (FAA to you yanks) registered BAA as their trademark (and that stuff is public record so he probebly was searching the lists of major companies etc). They guy had clearly just bought it and as he could see a goldmine in it. He quickly did a site about sheep ("baa" lol) and then BAA started making enquiries about his legal ownership and it got messy.

Basically BAA offered him £8,000 for a site that got barely any hits and he didn't actually sell anything on. He countered, asking for at least £2,000,000. He tried to play hardball with them for about 8 months, but long story short, BAA ended up getting the site as they had an army of lawyers ready to generate legal fees that would have put the guy out on the street. The other thing was when there is a dispute of this nature, it all comes down to mitigation; who owns the name in a recorded legal basis/who has sold goods under that name/who was there first and in what territory/etc.


Another example is Sasha:

Around 5 years ago there was a big dispute over who was allowed to use the name; DJ Sasha (Alexander Coe) or Sasha (that cheesey boyband singer who is quite a big name in Nothern Europe).

Went to court and it was decided, mainly on the basis of who had sold in which territory first, that Mr.Coe would get the rights to use Sasha in the USA, Canada, Japan, UK, Ireland and France, but the other Sasha would retain Germany, Switzerland and Austria, mainly hinging on the legal basis that even though Mr Coe had sold records in those places long before, they were all foreign imports, not on domestic labels in those countries, whereas the cheesey Sasha had been signed to domestic labels and had therefore entered the market proper first with that name.

So in that case it comes down simply to first established commercial usage.

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Kysora
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Kysora thankfully seems original for the moment, aside from some tool on Youtube who uploads anime videos under the name.

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MSZ
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Registered: Jun 2005
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check it out im a rapper in poland.

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TranceElevation
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I'd purchase Looney4Clooney.

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DJ RANN
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quote:
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I'd purchase Looney4Clooney.


Actually L4C is already been and done; There's several twitter accounts, a FB page, several myspace pages, the site has been registered ...there's nothing left.


One other story:

A friend is a well known celebrity Fitness Guru in France - unknown to her (due to her inept and now jobless web guy) her site address wasn't renewed on time and a few months ago at midnight, some dude in Switzerland snapped it up the second it became available, and parked her site with e holding page.

She was going to lose a revenue of about 1,000EUR a day (that's what she makes off her site) and the guy asked for 3,000 to transfer it back to her name. She got heavy with him and quickly sent the proof of trademark and historical ownership detail and he backed down to 500EUR which she paid.

Basically, guy got 500EUR for a site he paid 15EUR for and owned for less than 24 hours.

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Seandroid
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I got Seandroid.com

I'd get the fucking Twitter account if Twitter would release inactive usernames. It's been inactive for TWO YEARS.


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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands

Same thing here. Wanting some .com name for a while now. I got the .net and .org already but the .com is taken by a domain broker. An earlier broker that had the name actually tried to sellit to me but the asking price was way too steep. Just got the .org 2 weeks ago. I noticed about 6 weeks earlier that it was in its redemption period and they were about to release it. Luckily i got it first right after that.

Twitter account has 1 tweet from seceral years ago


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Mel David
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quote:
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I got Seandroid.com

I'd get the fucking Twitter account if Twitter would release inactive usernames. It's been inactive for TWO YEARS.


To be honest if you have your own website you don't really need Twitter or Facebook, or Soundcloud for that matter. You should be directing your would-be fans to your own website.

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Storyteller
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To be honest if you have your own website you don't really need Twitter or Facebook, or Soundcloud for that matter. You should be directing your would-be fans to your own website.


No, that only works if your name attracts a critical mass of visitors already. In order to gain more traction social websites is where you want to be, at any given time.


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Richard Butler
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4 years ago I made and then bought rights to about 12 Moroccan tourism names, such as Golfmorocco.com.

I did this as Morocco is a fast developing nation, and the closest exotic destination to Europe (3 hours from London) and the King stated building massive high end tourist sites, a lot of them backed by rich Saudis.

I have to pay about £250 every 2 years to keep them, and hope one day I might be able to sell.


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Rodri Santos
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Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Milan

rodrisantos.com is taken the internet is getting small and i don't want fucking .ws domains , happens the same for track names, even if you write something like Looghytjurum there are chances that it has already been taken. XXXX- I'm a fucking twat is probably taken also.

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Mel David
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It doesn't have to be a .com. Try .info .pro .org .net

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