For what it's worth, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think anything over 15,000 hz cannot be cut to vinyl. Something about the needle vibrating too fast and causing audible noise/static.

this is an EQ preset I slap on everything, have had pretty good luck with it

Last edited by meriter on Apr-23-2012 at 17:08

bluff I'm with you on the highs and I recognise this issue. Yur lows in that track btw sound wonderful.

Very recently I'm spending much more time and attention on all hi sound content. It's easy to overlook the fact a few hats and hi synth sounds can really clash.

I'm taking to removing masses of eq out of hat sounds, so that in the main (not alwasy) just the hi's remain in the hats, this then gives more room for those hi synthy tones.

Another thing to watch are those sweeps and crashes which are easy to overlook. They can really get messy when hitting alondside all the hatz etc. This is where levelling and ducking have to be carefully done.

Opening filters on synth parts is another danger area of course and easy to get carried away in the moment. I try and remember to automate the eq hi shelve bringing it down as the synth filters open so you still get that filtery loverlyness happening but hopefuly with a valve on the harsh and clashing highs.

Your sound is real pro mate I wouldn't fret too much.

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Originally posted by meriter For what it's worth, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think anything over 15,000 hz cannot be cut to vinyl. Something about the needle vibrating too fast and causing audible noise/static. this is an EQ preset I slap on everything, have had pretty good luck with it

I am curious on what you use this, even the kick for example? I tend to cut things to 20-30Hz but i see you start decreasing around 50hz, the bass and the kick need some frequencies there in my opinion.

Also cutting 16khz... depending on the sound i do this, 80% of the cases i'd say but i've seen that the "electronica master" preset on Izotope Ozone actually boost this quite a lot, say +12db, i've also seen through youtube videos that some producers slightly boost from 10khz to 20khz on the eq, theory tell me 3 things about this:

1.- Above 15khz sounds are unpleasant so don't do it.
2.- I've tried to highpass a track to 15khz and it's like if it loses some of the vibe, even A/B comparing the 2 waveforms you see that something isn't there.
3.- Generally if you analyze a track with an equalizer you'll see that there's very little going on there so if you want to make it present you need to boost the things up there.

I'd say this is a discussion between those who prefer pristine mixes and those who prefer a warmer feeling on the track.

pretty sure he is putting it on the master.

High End 15Khz + is just really not that important. MOst cant hear it, mp3's will truncate it. I do think judicious use of the type of EQ you would use on say a distortion guitar, low and high cut accentuating the mids can be effective. I think most are talking about the 8 kHz range. Not as noticeable as bass in terms of improper balance and the resulting track not only how it sounds across all frequencies but also how loud you can get it without making it sound shit.

using any automatic preset without knowing why is a bad habit. EDM producers have a really bad habit of using filters with ridiculous slopes and chopping off way too much making everything sound surgical and unnatural. It is a good practice to get what you think is good, then just back off a bit. Not just eq, Everything really. Until you have the experience, you will tend to overshoot.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney using any automatic preset without knowing why is a bad habit. EDM producers have a really bad habit of using filters with ridiculous slopes and chopping off way too much making everything sound surgical and unnatural. It is a good practice to get what you think is good, then just back off a bit. Not just eq, Everything really. Until you have the experience, you will tend to overshoot.

I completely agree. I tend to do this without even realising.
And then I come back to a mix and half the sound is gone with an EQ lol. I think mastering the EQ and not using it just on everything because thats what people tell you to do is important.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos I am curious on what you use this, even the kick for example? I tend to cut things to 20-30Hz but i see you start decreasing around 50hz, the bass and the kick need some frequencies there in my opinion.

I start with that preset on pretty much everything but it is just a starting point. I don't work with an EQ on the master I figure you shouldn't need to. I've never had a good result with just low-passing the entire mix and wouldn't recommend that, but I pretty much keep that steep cut at 16,200 hz for every element and it sounds fine, there's plenty of air and my personal preference is to mix a little dark anyway. Helps with the ear fatigue too


As far as the low end goes I never just recklessly cut everything at 40 hz and call it a day and btw the lower frequencies don't just disappear when you do that. There's still a fair amount going on in the low end even when you do roll it off but yeah for the kick it's always different