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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney peer pressure doesn't work on me. You are going to have to appeal to my ego in a subversive way.

You consider me a "peer" wow, breakthrough alert...

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you're good L4C, you're good....

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How do you separate the signal into more bands? Direct hz cut or is there some bleeding? And do you keep the M/S properties constant over the bands or do you shape the sound say less side on the bottoms or maybe a nice vase shape or something?

use the old school MB method , you send the signal to 4 busses, and apply EQ. I tend to use a linear EQ for this. For bass, m/s i suppose doesn't really make a difference. But for other bands, that is something i haven't tried; I just thought it was cool and never really saw anyone do it this way. And if I find something cool, chances are others will do. I'm sure others have done it, but i would say my main hat is not even production but ya, it is cool, it can be used for a lot of things.

I think the idea is to create motion without actually doing something that demands attention. So sbutle manipulations can make a difference instead of implying a groove with layers of loops/. The groove is sort of imprinted to the group you are using it on.

cable guys volume shaper is really worth it; It is very accurate in terms of sync which i honestly can't say about alot of DAW automation .

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Multi band processing is awesome, I've been using it quite a bit, but yeah mostly with side-chaining and subtle filter automation with the split bands. Might have to give that volume shaping plug a crack, just curious on the benefits of that vs. normal volume automation?

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Just curious if you run into phase inversion problems doing this? It sounds like they must be separated enough where it doesn't happen. I haven't tried running the same sound through multiple busses at once, mainly because my DAW doesn't allow it (I have to copy tracks and then run them into separate busses, but that does cause phase inversion problems at times).

Sounds like a good method for creating rhythm where it didn't initially exist. Is it better because you have more control, or because it doesn't sound like that "side-chain" sound?

just more control. I mean you have a huge screen to edit the actual volume. With as many nodes as you want. In terms of phase, I think you just have to be careful where you split the band, and using linear EQ for the split , and not mixing it back with the original.

It is just volume manipulation so phasing is not so important. There is also lfo tool where you can use a filter rather than volume to shape your bottom.

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I just use Ableton's multiband compressor to split the bands. Once you save the rack its really easy to do...

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney cable guys volume shaper is really worth it; It is very accurate in terms of sync which i honestly can't say about alot of DAW automation .

You gotta get on the FL train man.. Choo choo ka fucking choo you know... But seriously, automation in fl is so sexy.