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djnitride
Tiesto played my record



Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Texas

Dream.... Within a Dream.

Top notch stuff in here. This is going to get repeated on the level of Stockholm Syndrome

Also thanks for posting the history behind some of these tracks / old labels. I had almost no knowledge of this time period before.

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

I've listened to this twice now, and I didn't enjoy it that much, to be honest. Most of the tracks were good, but I didn't really like the way they were put together. I know these old tracks are very tough to mix, but you make mistakes which have nothing to do with that. Take the transition into Tribal Symphony: the transition is one beat out of synch, which is why it's clapping on every beat and goes into the breakdown one beat later than it should. That's just a basic error. You also obviously don't put much thought into harmonic mixing. The key clashes were particularly distracting early on in the mix when there's no energy and you're basically just building atmosphere.

I can forgive ropey mixing if the flow remains good, but I just do not understand the flow of this mix. The first half drifts past without really building any kind of momentum, and while I enjoyed the spacey vibes of tracks like Can I Dream, I was wondering if the mix was ever actually going to build up to something. At about 38 minutes the Beyond Religion track finally begins to add some energy to the mix with that meaty bassline, only for you to immediately kill the energy off with the next track. We meander around for a while more, and then you do it again with Aeon - Terminus. Once more it feels like the mix is belatedly going up a gear, but you follow it with a very mellow, almost Detroit techno, track which brings it right back down. Why?

Again, the tracks were nice. I hadn't heard of any of them before so credit for the crate digging, but given you put out mixes so rarely and apparently have been planning this one for three years, I would expect much more thought to have gone into it.


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Juan Paulino
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Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Rouge City

Checkin this out.


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sunsurge
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: london

I was still listening to Jarre (I know...) and Tangerine Dream in the early nineties, wasn't aware of trance at all at the time so I really appreciate mixes like this that give you a glimpse.

None of the tracks are standing out hugely on the first listen but it's hugely interesting catching the genesis of trance music like this. Thanks for digging and uploading.


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Mr Game+Watch
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Long Island, NY

As someone who first got into trance in the '97-98 years (though nowadays I'm more of a house guy), it's nice to go back and hear some of the older, lesser-known songs... I can see how a lot of elements in the mix are almost like a prototype to the mid 2000's progressive trance. Very good, and I liked the name/cover art too.


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rdevito
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Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Umbra

First of all i have to tell you that Stockholm Syndrome is one of my favorite mixes here on TA, so i had a high expectation for this mix.

Now to the point:

Overall, good set. Pretty good track selection with a decent flow, and i really liked the tracks at the end. However the mixing itself was not your best work.

My major points are: the transition between Tribal Symphony and Dream N Trance is way out of key, and there were one or 2 more transitions with this same problem; Transition between Project Janus and Plastic Body Liquid Mind is very weird, it's not properly synced and seems (at least to me) you faded away too fast Project Janus.


To be honest, when i listen to a classic mix i usually don't give too much importance to the technical side of it, basically because i simply don't know this tracks and it's always a pleasure to listen to this stuff. But the difference between a default and remarkable mix is the way you put the tracks right? And since you wanted a feedback i felt free to write my opinion.

That being said, i'm waiting for you next mix

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Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada

Good set, I also see with your timing right after I posted my mix! Definitely my kind of trance. My favourite era was 1988-1996. Then 1997-2001 and 2002-2005. What I liked the most is that about 4 or 5 of the tracks in this set I haven't heard before. Not particularly a fan of Lekebusch or Leiner, flow wasn't an issue with me, and I am not in the position of criticizing the mixing since I suck at it myself but genres like this are very hard to mix because often the tracks weren't made to be mixed on the dancefloor, no beat-in or beat-out often times.


Note: that Ulysses track is great and has been for a while on my regular Classic Trance 1988-1996 playlist and I was thinking of using it at one of my later Ambient Trance mixes


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SPANIARD
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto,Ontario

Solid mix Hamid! I see what you are saying about mixing those older tracks and it's impossible to fault you on that. I think it might be missing an extra bit of spark in the middle to cary it towards the end, however it never really goes off path. The Ulysses track takes it for me in terms of individual tracks, just such a stormer!

BTW, I think I recommended some stuff for you when you said you were doing the mix. I can't remember what I sent you, did you end up using anything?

Cheers


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Registered: May 2007
Location: Scotland /Utopia.

This works, for me . Fine selection of tunage , many thanks.


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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

Thanks for all the criticism so far guys!


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Lews
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees

Interesting mix here. I do have to echo Jack in being slightly confused by the flow. While I didn't find it quite as terrible as him, it definitely wasn't your best. The mixing also left a bit to wish for. The tracks themselves, however, were phenomenal. Hadn't heard most of these before, so props for the work hunting them down. You most definitely know your stuff, mate.

I'll definitely give it more listens - the tracks are so great - but next time maybe spend a bit more work on the delivery


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InnerReflection
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Registered: Sep 2012
Location: Melbourne

Some really really good tracks most definitely. Rather nice selection.

In terms of flow... it's not really an issue for me with this mix. There's no jarring bits or anything, and some bits have an interesting flow/energy/atmosphere going with them. It's more of an area that could use improvement. With a bit more time put into the flow this could definitely be a powerful journey especially with such amazing tracks. The usual advice like sometimes you have a track you really want to put in but it just won't fit anywhere flow wise so you just have to drop it for flow's sake applies.

Overall quite good mix though. I quite enjoyed future retro revolution as well. I'm very impressed with your track selection and knowledge of those sortof styles from that era.

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