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Looney4Clooney
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Then develop your online presence. Work on many tracks. Being signed as a noob has a lot of downsides. It restricts where you can promote your stuff, they don't really help spread your music and it is only really useful in getting some sort of bio quip if you want to dj.

If you are serious, then as people have mentioned, wait till people are offering you money. if you are not getting an advance, you are not good enough to be signed. ANd everyone here will say wait, i never got any advances, which i think proves my point. Being signed to any label means absolutely nothing.

So be patient, network and if you are good enough, things will happen. Don't bother sending it to labels. And never just plan on releasing 1 track. You need a consistent flow of tracks. The best way is an EP. And if that does well , you will get remix offers, then you do a few of those with name artists, then your next EP will sell. And then you can start touring.

From 0 to hero , in the dance scene if you are good takes 2-3 years.


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Woony
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
From 0 to hero , in the dance scene if you are good takes 2-3 years.


That's not true. You can release a single, well received EP and you'll get bookings in some of the best clubs in the world. Happens all the time nowadays.


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Then develop your online presence. Work on many tracks. Being signed as a noob has a lot of downsides. It restricts where you can promote your stuff, they don't really help spread your music and it is only really useful in getting some sort of bio quip if you want to dj.

If you are serious, then as people have mentioned, wait till people are offering you money. if you are not getting an advance, you are not good enough to be signed. ANd everyone here will say wait, i never got any advances, which i think proves my point. Being signed to any label means absolutely nothing.

So be patient, network and if you are good enough, things will happen. Don't bother sending it to labels. And never just plan on releasing 1 track. You need a consistent flow of tracks. The best way is an EP. And if that does well , you will get remix offers, then you do a few of those with name artists, then your next EP will sell. And then you can start touring.

From 0 to hero , in the dance scene if you are good takes 2-3 years.

Thanks, decent post!

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That's not true. You can release a single, well received EP and you'll get bookings in some of the best clubs in the world. Happens all the time nowadays.


Agree, though, great work finds appreciation

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Looney4Clooney
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a single is not an EP. the point is that being successful in the music industry requires momentum. 1 track will only get you so far. And that aint going to happen with just 1 track. If it does, that one track will take at least a few months to get around because you are nobody. If you were established, that track would be big right away, not the case if you are nobody. So 1 year to get some bookings, another year to solidify that reputation. I didn't say 0 to mediocre producer who can now dj. I said hero.


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Looney4Clooney
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Agree, though, great work finds appreciation


great tracks have a shelf life of 1 month. Which is why even a great track by a nobody will risk never being big when it was released and by the time people know about it, yesterday's news. Which is why you need followups.

this is 101 shit


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Woony
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a single is not an EP. the point is that being successful in the music industry requires momentum. 1 track will only get you so far. And that aint going to happen with just 1 track. If it does, that one track will take at least a few months to get around because you are nobody. If you were established, that track would be big right away, not the case if you are nobody. So 1 year to get some bookings, another year to solidify that reputation. I didn't say 0 to mediocre producer who can now dj. I said hero.


I meant single as an adjective, as in in a single EP. And you absolutely can be a nobody as long as your stuff is good enough to get hyped by the right channels. I've seen it so many times. Some guy drops a whitelabel, it get's hyped by the right people and a month later he's flying all over the globe DJing at the biggest clubs.

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great tracks have a shelf life of 1 month. Which is why even a great track by a nobody will risk never being big when it was released and by the time people know about it, yesterday's news. Which is why you need followups.

this is 101 shit


That's not true either. There are Dubstep producers that haven't made Dubstep in 2-3 years that still get bookings for Dubstep nights all over the globe off 1-2 EP's.

I think we are just coming from very different scenes/perspective. Different scenes work different.


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i think you are focusing on the exception.


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Well, aren't we talking if you are good (exceptional)? Shure, if you make average, run off the mill stuff that sounds like everything else, signed to small, average labels it'll take you a while.


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Looney4Clooney
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All those breakout artists took about 2 years from the time they released the stuff that made their name. Thats just how long it takes. Anyways, this is sort of tiresome. Do as you will.


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Well, aren't we talking if you are good (exceptional)? Shure, if you make average, run off the mill stuff that sounds like everything else, signed to small, average labels it'll take you a while.


You can see people all over with exceptional talent that still get unnoticed. It takes multiple releases, connections, and lots of momentum to set yourself apart.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Then develop your online presence. Work on many tracks. Being signed as a noob has a lot of downsides. It restricts where you can promote your stuff, they don't really help spread your music and it is only really useful in getting some sort of bio quip if you want to dj.

If you are serious, then as people have mentioned, wait till people are offering you money. if you are not getting an advance, you are not good enough to be signed. ANd everyone here will say wait, i never got any advances, which i think proves my point. Being signed to any label means absolutely nothing.

So be patient, network and if you are good enough, things will happen. Don't bother sending it to labels. And never just plan on releasing 1 track. You need a consistent flow of tracks. The best way is an EP. And if that does well , you will get remix offers, then you do a few of those with name artists, then your next EP will sell. And then you can start touring.

From 0 to hero , in the dance scene if you are good takes 2-3 years.


although this clooney fellow appears to talk a lot of shit, his advice seems 100% accurate in this case. most labels will do nothing for you in this day and age but cause headaches. furthermore it is not difficult to start your own label and send tracks to big DJs yourself.
but first you must invest the studio time to ensure your tracks are up to par

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