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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Turntables + SSL = win. I still hate CDJs after all these years... I still love vinyl the most, but SSL is the best of both worlds.

Yeah but it's for old people who don't want to follow the times. (or is it tides?)
for someone just starting out, buying tt's and ssl and a mixer and quite possibly a new computer, would be pretty counteractive, as you'd just be limiting yourself, in the long run. stuff like looping and fx is annoying without a controller, and even a small one like the Dicer is gonna be more money out of pocket. I still stand by advice as the best option for someone who's just starting out.

I honestly think there is no point in buying an S4. Basically if you want to learn to DJ you should learn to beatmatch. If you use the S4 you won't be doing any beatmatching. It is my understanding that the pitch resolution is simply not high enough. So yea you can use the jogwheels, but the sync button will still be pressed to match the tracks to the same BPM. And there's nothing wrong with starting that way, but I think that all DJs who start out today should ultimately get to the point of mixing with records. And I think that the best advice to give is to suggest something that is beginner friendly, yet future proof in the sense that it can also go into a more advanced setup. If the guy wants to focus on learning to structure sets first and EQing tracks etc...first, I'd say buy a proper mixer and like a traktor Kontrol X1 or something, or even something as simple as an M-Audio X-Session Pro, and traktor obviously. But then when he decides that just playing on traktor with the sync function activated, which he will, he will want to buy a pair of CDJs, and he will already have a great mixer to use them with. Anyway that's what I think. I doubt in this guy's case, since he's probably not too bright, or just really young (I'm making that assumption based on him coming here and asking this question in the first place) that he wants actual turn tables.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

Thanks you guys I know it must be annoying people like me all the time asking so stupid questions. I just really want to know what was a good set up was for a beginner and what style. By the sound of it I think cd and computer is my way forward. *stupid alert* I take it I just buy normal cd yeah or can i download of my laptop and mix them with the cd table

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Originally posted by Adam420 I honestly think there is no point in buying an S4. Basically if you want to learn to DJ you should learn to beatmatch. If you use the S4 you won't be doing any beatmatching. It is my understanding that the pitch resolution is simply not high enough. So yea you can use the jogwheels, but the sync button will still be pressed to match the tracks to the same BPM. And there's nothing wrong with starting that way, but I think that all DJs who start out today should ultimately get to the point of mixing with records. And I think that the best advice to give is to suggest something that is beginner friendly, yet future proof in the sense that it can also go into a more advanced setup. If the guy wants to focus on learning to structure sets first and EQing tracks etc...first, I'd say buy a proper mixer and like a traktor Kontrol X1 or something, or even something as simple as an M-Audio X-Session Pro, and traktor obviously. But then when he decides that just playing on traktor with the sync function activated, which he will, he will want to buy a pair of CDJs, and he will already have a great mixer to use them with. Anyway that's what I think. I doubt in this guy's case, since he's probably not too bright, or just really young (I'm making that assumption based on him coming here and asking this question in the first place) that he wants actual turn tables.

Actually the S4 isn't a bad piece. I have one and it's a nice piece for its price tag. Especially if you're working in a tight environment where real estate doesn't exist. IMO, it's a great starting point for a beginner who has doubts about djing in the first place.

Ok, what's up with the Pauly D avatar? Did you lose a bet.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I honestly think there is no point in buying an S4. Basically if you want to learn to DJ you should learn to beatmatch. If you use the S4 you won't be doing any beatmatching. It is my understanding that the pitch resolution is simply not high enough. So yea you can use the jogwheels, but the sync button will still be pressed to match the tracks to the same BPM. And there's nothing wrong with starting that way, but I think that all DJs who start out today should ultimately get to the point of mixing with records. And I think that the best advice to give is to suggest something that is beginner friendly, yet future proof in the sense that it can also go into a more advanced setup. If the guy wants to focus on learning to structure sets first and EQing tracks etc...first, I'd say buy a proper mixer and like a traktor Kontrol X1 or something, or even something as simple as an M-Audio X-Session Pro, and traktor obviously. But then when he decides that just playing on traktor with the sync function activated, which he will, he will want to buy a pair of CDJs, and he will already have a great mixer to use them with. Anyway that's what I think. I doubt in this guy's case, since he's probably not too bright, or just really young (I'm making that assumption based on him coming here and asking this question in the first place) that he wants actual turn tables.

I said S2. Not S4. S4 would be overkill, that we can all agree on.
I don't know about the pitch resolution on the s4's but the S2's have better resolution than cdj-1000 mk1 (and mk2 too also I believe).
I mostly just use the pitch faders, no sync, and I have no problem getting the exact same tempo on both tracks. whatsoever. plus if it's not fine enough, there's an option for that in preferences. Maybe you've been rocking with +/-20% faders without knowing it?

Buy an S2 and don't buy anything else for at least two years imo.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Turntables + SSL = win. I still hate CDJs after all these years... I still love vinyl the most, but SSL is the best of both worlds.

+1

But I prefer Traktor Scratch.

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Try not to start the same thread in two separate sub-forums on here. Just causes confusion. I've deleted the other one you started in the dj booth.

Here was my reply to it:

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Originally posted by jdizzler As the title says. I'm from falkirk and im very passionate about my music. I love house trance electronic pop everything. I want to follow my passion and learn to become a dj but I don't know where to start. I have bought djing for dummies etc but I'm looking for someone who I can pay to teach me from vinyl djing to digital. I prefer learning digital but don't know where to start if anyone can help.me where to start what equipment where to get beats etc I would totally love it. Does anyone know any tutors in Scotland to teach djing

Hi,

What I'd do first off is have a look through this thread here CLICK ME.

Should give you a nice starting block to learn some of the basics. Most people I know didn't bother paying someone to teach them how to play but got a friend to show them or just taught themselves.

Either way have a long read/look at the thread above and it'll answer a lot of the questions you have starting off.

There's no quick way to learn it takes months to get a grasp and even longer till you're very comfortable. If you're not ready to put in the hours and just want to know asap then I'm not sure it's for you. (not saying you're not ready to put in the hours just a general statement).

Seeing as you have such a passion for music and seem to be interested in mixing you should have no problems with putting in the necessary hours.

Once you've had a read/look at the thread above, come back with some more specific questions. People tend to steer clear of these general wide open questions, like the one you've asked above.

Over the years that I've been here people tend to be more helpful with specific questions compared to the more generic questions we see here week in month out.

Hope that helps a little.

Thanks you guys I know it must be annoying people like me all the time asking so stupid questions. I just really want to know what was a good set up was for a beginner and what style. By the sound of it I think cd and computer is my way forward. *stupid alert* I take it I just buy normal cd yeah or can i download of my laptop and mix them with the cd table

You can't use your laptop and a cdj. Wtf. Have you read ANY of the replies?

Thanks you guys I know it must be annoying people like me all the time asking so stupid questions. I just really want to know what was a good set up was for a beginner and what style. By the sound of it I think cd and computer is my way forward. *stupid alert* I take it I just buy normal cd yeah or can i download of my laptop and mix them with the cd table

You posted the same thing.

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