Originally posted by Acton
Fire - The visible aspect of the exothermic oxidation of various substances.
Ice - The transparent, crystalline solid state of water molecules.
They don't really symbolise anything to me, they are what they are.
Darn scientists, always unweaving the rainbow.
Aug-28-2012 12:02
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Aug-28-2012 12:11
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Originally posted by Vector A
Darn scientists, always unweaving the arc in the sky of visible light caused by the refraction, reflection and further refraction of electromagnetic radiation passing through water droplets in the Earths atmosphere.
For me, seeing the two together in that phrase conjures a literal visual image of fire burning amongst ice, and so the phrase has connotations of magic or natural wonder, as well the properties of the two elements: clarity and delicacy of ice coupled with the vibrance and movement of dancing flames. That's pretty much how my brain works when interpreting poetic imagery, I suppose.
I always took it that the phrase was supposed to mean two opposite extremes - two things or people utterly opposite to each other, as demonstrated by the classic Spinal Tap moment:
I would personally say it's slightly arbitrary to call fire desire and ice anger - why wouldn't anger by fiery, and if so why would desire by icy? But then, poetic symbolism has a tendency to be arbitrary.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I would personally say it's slightly arbitrary to call fire desire and ice anger - why wouldn't anger by fiery, and if so why would desire by icy? But then, poetic symbolism has a tendency to be arbitrary.
Are you familiar with Robert Frost's poem?
"Some say the world will end in fire,
some say in ice.
from what i've tasted of desire
i hold those who favor fire.
but if it had to perish twice
I think I know enough of hate to say
that for destruction, ice
is also great and would suffice."
I could probably summarize Fire & Ice in one word = Lilith.
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Aug-28-2012 14:37
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Originally posted by Intellekshual
"Some say the world will end in fire,
some say in ice.
from what i've tasted of desire
i hold those who favor fire.
but if it had to perish twice
I think I know enough of hate to say
that for destruction, ice
is also great and would suffice."