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stren
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Warsaw, Earth, 1 AU

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you use drugs before they're legalised. You fucking sponsor these criminal cunts!


Good point Lira, just grow your own drugs!


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
And this never happens in other markets with "legal" products?

Yeah. How about fuck off with your high-and-mighty bullshit.

No, this is important, you fuck off with your drugs until they're legal. Is it really that hard? If that's any encouragement for you to go and legalise them so you can get high, do it - but stop thinking it's no one else's business unless you've got your own meth lab at home or something of the sort. It's easy to be all offended when you're in an economy that can provide a good security force, but countries like mine (where, I must admit, there are shitheads who are no less worse) cannot at the same time try to work on our infrastructure AND protect its citizens effectively. These drug gangs often become actual armies, thanks to the drugs they sell. Here, let me show you the most important traffic routes in Mexico, from a reliable source.



See where it all goes? To the border! Why? Because that's where most money is! Why? I'm sure you can answer this last question.

As for this happening with "legal" products, because manufacturers/sellers of legal products have much to lose, you hardly ever see the news mention "Beer armies", "Chocolate gangs" or "Vegemite Rebels". Drug pushers often have nothing to lose, as they're already criminals.
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Originally posted by Lews
Not necessarily true.

Of course they may do other things on occasion, but there's a reason they're called drug gangs/cartels/armies/kerfufflers.


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Lews
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Of course they may do other things on occasion, but there's a reason they're called drug gangs/cartels/armies/kerfufflers.


No, my point was that there are many people who buy drugs without involving Mexican armies in the process. Just because someone is buying/using drugs does not necessitate supporting criminal cunts.


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Lira
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Originally posted by Lews
No, my point was that there are many people who buy drugs without involving Mexican armies in the process. Just because someone is buying/using drugs does not necessitate supporting criminal cunts.

That's why I mentioned there are exceptions, such as drug users who have their own meth labs, hemp plantations, or pet shops with a resident chemist where they sell ketamine to jockeys and junkies.


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Silky Johnson
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Oh fuck off Lira.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Oh fuck off Lira.

You come here and have your significant other kidnapped by a drug gang before you fucking tell me to fuck off! Being held at gunpoint is really fun, I bet.

Come, let's see how you like that when it strikes fucking close to home!


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Lomeli
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Entuculo, Mexico

The people of Mexico are great. Their spirits remains high during these difficult times. My uncle was a casualty during this drug conflict. Gunmen burst into his home and shot him point blank. It's hard to explain what I felt. Intense anger and sadness.

The country lies in the hands of the people, sadly.

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Lews
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You come here and have your significant other kidnapped by a drug gang before you fucking tell me to fuck off! Being held at gunpoint is really fun, I bet.

Come, let's see how you like that when it strikes fucking close to home!


I understand your feelings and your point, but it's neither accurate or fair to make the statement you did. There are many people who are exceptions.

But, again, as Hal said, do we really need to do this all over, again?


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enydo
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Originally posted by Lira
No, this is important, you fuck off with your drugs until they're legal. Is it really that hard? If that's any encouragement for you to go and legalise them so you can get high, do it - but stop thinking it's no one else's business unless you've got your own meth lab at home or something of the sort. It's easy to be all offended when you're in an economy that can provide a good security force, but countries like mine (where, I must admit, there are shitheads who are no less worse) cannot at the same time try to work on our infrastructure AND protect its citizens effectively. These drug gangs often become actual armies, thanks to the drugs they sell. Here, let me show you the most important traffic routes in Mexico, from a reliable source.



See where it all goes? To the border! Why? Because that's where most money is! Why? I'm sure you can answer this last question.

As for this happening with "legal" products, because manufacturers/sellers of legal products have much to lose, you hardly ever see the news mention "Beer armies", "Chocolate gangs" or "Vegemite Rebels". Drug pushers often have nothing to lose, as they're already criminals.

Of course they may do other things on occasion, but there's a reason they're called drug gangs/cartels/armies/kerfufflers.


Go write a book about it. Maybe I'll read it.

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rdevito
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Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Umbra

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
Oh fuck off Lira.


We had to use our Army (with heavy weapons, tanks, helicopters) and all the police just to win a 'drug battle' in one fucking city. Only the people who are actually living this war can tell you how fucking horrible this is.

So don't tell us to fuck off.

Old Post Nov-27-2012 21:44  Brazil
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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0424/096.html

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you eat chocolate even when it's been legalised. You fucking sponsor these slaver cunts!

Except you've got someone you can successfully sue if it's true (suing a drug pusher is definitely trickier depending on the legislation), and it does so much damage to their PR that they're forced to check on that, as it's mentioned in the last paragraphs of that article
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Originally posted by Lews
I understand your feelings and your point, but it's neither accurate or fair to make the statement you did. There are many people who are exceptions.

But, again, as Hal said, do we really need to do this all over, again?

Wow, I completely missed his posts. And you're right, I feel I've mentioned this before. I'll stop here then.


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Old Post Nov-27-2012 21:46  Brazil
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enydo
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I'd rather you continue. While you're at it, try and convince every drug user in America they're directly funding cartels.

That'll solve the problem.

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