quote:

Originally posted by Psyshell Same reason my 2nd last forum account got banned, for no apparent reason because swamper wanted to probably. Part of the reason was that swamper was fucking stupid enough to think I was actually racist... not that I made racist jokes or anything, but that I was, based on a single forum post. I highly dislike being around people who are actually racist, and what's concidered racist or not certainly varies a lot between the US and Australia... so it's good to know he can make an accurate assesment about whether or not I'm racist especially when being racist goes against my political ideology in a rather extreme way (in a way that you know, making racist jokes doesn't). Suffice to say when I say the cor needs more mods the reasons are more than just "lots of spam gets past".

I suspect the lesson here is "Don't be an annoying fucking berk, or people might just get sick of you one day."

___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

I never really paid much attention to mattsanity.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I suspect the lesson here is "Don't be an annoying fucking berk, or people might just get sick of you one day."

My issue isn't with me getting suspended, it's with whoever decided to do it was obviously annoyed with me for a very long time and they decided to find some dumb excuse to do it. They can add a section to the forum rules that says "we ban people for being annoying" and then they can do what they want.

At least be upfront about why you're doing it.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J

The reason I gave him das boot was because, after Eddie politely explained Matt's comments irked him because his mother died in a gun related incident, he taunted Eddie with the comment "Overreaction much?". Had I suspended Matt because he told us all that evil lurks in the hearts of man, I'd say that was uncalled for. However, that was clearly not the case.

As a matter of fact I don't care what his original message was, because we're all free to share our beliefs here. However, the moment he provokes users on personal grounds like that, it would've been callous for us mods not to do anything.

quote:

Originally posted by Psyshell My issue isn't with me getting suspended, it's with whoever decided to do it was obviously annoyed with me for a very long time and they decided to find some dumb excuse to do it. They can add a section to the forum rules that says "we ban people for being annoying" and then they can do what they want. At least be upfront about why you're doing it.

I sent him an explanation right away explaining why I had suspended him.

Edit: As for banning people for their stupidity, idiocy, or obnoxiousness, I believe most mods agree I tend to be very lenient, having always refused to suspend users for these reasons.

Matt was annoying, yes. Matt was incredibly dull, right. But I didn't ban him for either reason.

Last edited by Lira on Dec-15-2012 at 18:09

quote:

Originally posted by Psyshell At least be upfront about why you're doing it.

I agree with that. This community has essentially become a group of friends who reject newcomers we don't like and embrace those who fit with our outlook. As someone who's part of the in-crowd, I'm quite happy with that, because forums are communities and should not be ruled by the whims of one idealistic administrator.

This banning of Matt is an absolute joke in terms of justice, and this thread only exists because Eddie is trying to rationalise that.

___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

quote:

Originally posted by Lira However, the moment he provokes users on personal grounds like that, it would've been callous for us mods not to do anything. I sent him an explanation right away explaining why I had suspended him.

Certainly it looks like the mods are in the right in this case, and even if they weren't... they can always just do a better job next time.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J This banning of Matt is an absolute joke in terms of justice, and this thread only exists because Eddie is trying to rationalise that.

If swamper wants to randomly start banning people he can do that... but it's not like he just suddenly banned 1/3 of the users. Banning the troublesome 5% occasionally for no real reason and just waiting on the sides is shifty as hell.

This isn't an invite only or an extremely private forum and never has been, making it become that way slowly is rather strange.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I agree with that. This community has essentially become a group of friends who reject newcomers we don't like and embrace those who fit with our outlook. As someone who's part of the in-crowd, I'm quite happy with that, because forums are communities and should not be ruled by the whims of one idealistic administrator. This banning of Matt is an absolute joke in terms of justice, and this thread only exists because Eddie is trying to rationalise that.

Or because, as I pointed out earlier, you actually bought Matt's defence despite the fact it had nothing to do with his suspension.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J

Beat you to it, by the way

quote:

Originally posted by Lira Eddie politely explained Matt's comments irked him

quote:

Seriously, go fuck yourself and stuff your self-righteous indifference up your ass, while you're at it.

Uh huh.

___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

quote:

Originally posted by Lira Edit: As for banning people for their stupidity, idiocy, or obnoxiousness, I believe most mods agree I tend to be very lenient, having always refused to suspend users for these reasons.

From what I've seen of you, you're good... sushi made some naieve calls back 6 months ago but is getting better and swamper just pisses me off and always has ultimately. A forum this size cannot be run by one person for a variety of reasons suffice to say.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1319
Have a look at how the twcenter forum bureacracy works, now obviously we wouldn't want a "no insults model" of moderation, but we could have all warnings be public if the person who is warned chooses to make them so.

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Uh huh.

That was after the explanation, and the explanation itself was quite polite.

quote:

Originally posted by Lira That was after the explanation, and the explanation itself was quite polite.

Him being a complete dickhead... and then making a polite explanation that seems innocent enough but then later on devolves into him claiming the forum needs him indirectly, does not help his case no doubt.