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DOOMBOT
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quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
i read somewhere that the club only had one exit because of the Brazilian custom of clubbers running up bar tabs and paying on the way out.

From my experience, you simply pay for what you got during the night, at the end of the night. For example, when I was at D-Edge, they gave me a card that I would hand to the bartender when I wanted a drink and then before I left, I handed the card to a person before the exit that scanned it and then told me how much I owed. This isn't even something that is strictly found in clubs in Brazil; you can go to a cafe and it's the same process. I found it weird and annoying when I was there but that's what they do.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

Answering your questions:

  1. Is Lira okay?

    Yes. Although there's a city called "Santa Maria" in the outskirts of Brasília, this happened 1661 kilometres (1023 miles) away from here. In fact, it's closer to Buenos Aires than it is to my hometown.

  2. Where are the fire exits?

    The whole thing was a disaster waiting to happen. The place didn't have a licence (so it's not like it was up to our standards), and it was a small city (1% of the entire population was there), so odds are they didn't have enough personnel to control these things.

    As for the fire exits, odds are they just assumed it would never happen, and blaming it on party-goers seems to be a misunderstanding lost in translation: when people rushed towards the exit, security guards thought a fight had broken out, and some people were just waiting for an opportunity to leave without paying - the misunderstanding was soon cleared as they saw the panic was genuine, and let everybody out.

    Unfortunately though, their efforts weren't enough.

  3. But "Great White"?

    Most Brazilians would probably say "Great what?". Unfortunately, it's one of those things that probably need to happen in every country
I'm currently disgusted by the way our media is covering this incident. Kaoru decided to turn on the telly and see what was going on, and they made sure they showed every single fire that happened in Brazilian history with reporters yelling their lungs out every single time someone jumped from a building and the like. Stay classy, Brazilian media

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Lagrangian
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Registered: Feb 2012
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My deep condolences to all the victims. I would like to add that I totally support Hitler & Mussolini although killing all those jews was totally not cool.

they would've made great slaves.


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enydo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
TRAPPED in the club in the club in the club

Unceunceunceunce

TRAPPED in the club in the club in the club

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil


quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
From my experience, you simply pay for what you got during the night, at the end of the night. For example, when I was at D-Edge, they gave me a card that I would hand to the bartender when I wanted a drink and then before I left, I handed the card to a person before the exit that scanned it and then told me how much I owed. This isn't even something that is strictly found in clubs in Brazil; you can go to a cafe and it's the same process. I found it weird and annoying when I was there but that's what they do.

I've always wanted to know the logic behind it. I don't know if it's an attempt to make you spend more than you want because you're not dealing with money, if it's just easier to handle if you're a club/restaurant owner, or what.

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itsamemario
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Not everybody runs up tabs, many pay one and one drink. Not having to deal with change and stuff like that, and just charging it on a card (without PIN) seems like a far better solution than for instance tokens, or cards you have to fill up beforehand. Less lines to wait for the customers, and increased income for the bar, plus you get to beat up those that can't pay at the end of the night. It's a win/win/win.


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by clay
thank god it didnt happen in the u.s.a. we'd never hear the end of it

Well, it did happen there 10 years ago

The 5 minutes I watched on the telly yesterday left me emotionally drained - even our relatively ordinary channels behave as if they're tabloids, so that yesterday they felt the need to add as much footage of people screaming in fires and jumping off buildings as possible, even if the events had nothing to do with this recent disaster.

I was shaking by the time I turned off the telly.
quote:
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Not everybody runs up tabs, many pay one and one drink. Not having to deal with change and stuff like that, and just charging it on a card (without PIN) seems like a far better solution than for instance tokens, or cards you have to fill up beforehand. Less lines to wait for the customers, and increased income for the bar, plus you get to beat up those that can't pay at the end of the night. It's a win/win/win.

Maybe...

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tubularbills
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Registered: Apr 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Answering your questions:[list=1][*]Is Lira okay?

Yes. Although there's a city called "Santa Maria" in the outskirts of Brasília, this happened 1661 kilometres (1023 miles) away from here. In fact, it's closer to Buenos Aires than it is to my hometown.
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I don't know why, but I didn't think Brazil was that large.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
I don't know why, but I didn't think Brazil was that large.

It's probably because it looks smaller on the map compared to countries like Kazakhstan (which isn't exactly tiny either). Brazil is the largest country in the Southern hemisphere, and we're just 3% shy of being half of South America.

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Adam420
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It's probably because it looks smaller on the map compared to countries like Kazakhstan


no it doesn't.


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
no it doesn't.

Well, I'm trying to think of a reason here

(I've got a map in front of me, and Greenland definitely looks twice the size of Brazil, even though it's just 25% of its size or so. Can I switch to Greenland then?)

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Adam420
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The reason is that he's from Oklahoma. As a direct result of that, there is a lot about the world he probably doesn't know.


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Levels is...decent...damn better than a lot of the shite dominating the charts at the moment. It sounds absolutely nothing like...a billion and one similar tracks in this big-room style. I always had a soft spot.

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