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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
which they can do via facebook. As an artist, you have nothing to gain by having them follow you via soundcloud. Get them on facebook. An marketing pro will tell you that having people follow you on soundcloud rather than facebook is a detriment.


while facebook limits free exposure on fanpages to 10-15% ?

i doubt it... im sure for underground music a pro would tell you its important to have a foothold on all platforms


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Allied Nations
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my boss has 70K followers on SC and 60K fans on FB... both extremely important


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tehlord
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quote:
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while facebook limits free exposure on fanpages to 10-15% ?

i doubt it... im sure for underground music a pro would tell you its important to have a foothold on all platforms



Except that on Soundcloud people follow you so you follow them back, and they're all shouting just as loud as you. On Facebook you're more likely to have people follow what you do because they want to hear what you have to say.


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Allied Nations
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Except that on Soundcloud people follow you so you follow them back, and they're all shouting just as loud as you. On Facebook you're more likely to have people follow what you do because they want to hear what you have to say.


i dont know many... people know they can always get my mixes on SC.. i would imagine some of them return to my page many times to relisten.. also with the killer stats SC gives me i can see this....


i dont follow many people im not interested back on SC and feel the majority of my followers are actually interested in whats going on


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tehlord
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Djs really are the minority on Soundcloud.

Soundcloud is a tool that feeds other sites, that's it really. Any following on there is irrelevant as there's basically no way to connect with people other than upload more content, which you really want to be announcing on the other sites anyway....


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Looney4Clooney
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while facebook limits free exposure on fanpages to 10-15% ?

i doubt it... im sure for underground music a pro would tell you its important to have a foothold on all platforms


If you are big enough, then you have the money to pay. And the way facebook limits your page is not as simple as you think. IF you aren't engaging you fans properly, then ya facebook will run its algorythm as you are considered spam.

And the best way to get the mainstream to listen to your mixes is a podcast. People are on the run, they want something they can throw on their phone. listen to at the gym or in their car.


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Raphie
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my boss has 70K followers on SC and 60K fans on FB... both extremely important
But then again, who are you on SC? just curious from what perspective you wrote above?


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Allied Nations
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yeah but who wants their posts to say "sponsored" ?

just screams lame.... and is usually reserved for spam posts (releases, events etc)



i agree having engaging content is the best way to "beat" the system


i guess my stance is that as an underground musician, having a proper hold on all of these platforms is important, and none should be neglected, but all used appropriately for maxmimum gains vs time put in


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Rodri Santos
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normally a lot of people say "this is great" or the common form "this is great check my stuff here: XXXX" it may work as when people that don't follow me comment on my tracks on SC i usually inspect their profile.

There are people following 100k people with 20k followers, shit music and all the comments are of this kind, there are no real comments it's just a fictional success they write 100 comments a day and receive 100 in return this creates an appearance... if it translates into something valuable... i don't know.

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theterran
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Guide to being awesome at soundcloud and/or facebook :

Step 1) Follow/friend as many people as you can and comment about how awesome their song is, or how awesome, trendy and beautiful they are.

Step 2) Put a link in the comment praising them or their music back to your own

Step 3) Set your profile picture to a picture of you with 2 or more hot girls in it. (it doesn't even have to be you)

Step 4) ?????

Step 5) You suddenly have 1,000's of "friends" and lots of comments about how awesome your terrible music is.

(If your music is actually good, you can still follow steps 1,2 and 4...as it's a surprisingly good way to get some exposure, though still means fuck-all in the long run)

*giggle*

That aside...SC is still a pretty useful tool in its' own right. Sure it gets abused, but who really cares / why bother getting worked up about it. If it makes the "terrible music producer" happy to have all those comments and friends, more power to them.

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Whip_lash
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I always wondered how some of these producers that make terrible music have so many followers and so many comments on every track... there was this one guy (some guy from turkey) in a remix comp that i was a part of and his remix had like 10 times more plays then all the others and all the comments were so stupid like "this rocks!". Needless to say he wasn't one of the winner.. (i was one of em, not to brag or anything lol)

Its pretty hard tho to obtain some real followers that actually listen to your new tracks, actually its very very hard if you're virtually unknown... alot of it is usually fake fans that follow you hoping that you'll follow them back. (i refuse to do this unless i actually like their stuff)


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Looney4Clooney
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following people you don't care about isn't going to do anything. fake people don't buy and it isn't lke people seek out the top tracks on SC and people sure as hell don't search for ELECTRO + guy with most friends.

you want to buy fake views, youtube is the only thing worth paying for as you will show up but then again unless you did a remix of someone famous, nobody will be looking for it.

This shit is just common sense. It amazes me how people just don't fucking get it. And then there is the music part. Blows my mind how people think they are gonna make it. And i'm an autistic idiot savant. So ya, pretty fucking sad that someone with aspergers seems to know how to use social networking.


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