OK, disregard my previous comment - I thought he was talking about strapping Ozone across the master output channel during a live DJ set. That's a set I would not want my ears exposed to.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN™ I notice and that's just it.. Other people notice.. You might think its insignificant but it takes the sound of the entire mix to the next level.. Seriously.. Listen: http://djryan.com/sets/TranceSessions2.mp3 Super clear, super loud, and its that way throughout the entire set.. It also boosts all the frequencies increasing the overall energy (I think) throughout the entire mix..

ON YOUR HOME SYSTEM!!!! IE YOUR FUCKING IPOD. If god forbid someone lets you play on a proper sound system, this actually soudns worse. They don't do it for sets that are done live unless they do it after for those listening. Just shut the fuck up please.

and that mix sounds like utter shit. Lets slap something on you don't know how to use and get rid of the kick drum. Tat is basically what you did.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney ON YOUR HOME SYSTEM!!!! IE YOUR FUCKING IPOD. If god forbid someone lets you play on a proper sound system, this actually soudns worse. They don't do it for sets that are done live unless they do it after for those listening. Just shut the fuck up please. and that mix sounds like utter shit. Lets slap something on you don't know how to use and get rid of the kick drum. Tat is basically what you did.

u silly canadien

sounds the same imo..

Armin van Buuren @ ASOT550 (Den Bosch- Netherlands)(Recorded Live w/ No Post Filtering)
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you can't obtain this sound without doing what we're talking about..

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Originally posted by DJRYAN™ ...super loud, and its that way throughout the entire set..

Well, first of all, I wouldn't brag about super loud being a good thing - the reason people hate the loudness wars is because it's not a good thing. Also, having something too loud throughout the entire set results in hearing fatigue, which ultimately can have the opposite effect. That said, I'm listening to your mix and looking at the waveform in Audacity, and it doesn't sound or look too loud by any means - there's a ton of dynamic range left. Whatever you did to the tracks was probably very subtle, and I wouldn't characterize it as being "super loud".

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Originally posted by cryophonik Well, first of all, I wouldn't brag about super loud being a good thing - the reason people hate the loudness wars is because it's not a good thing. Also, having something too loud throughout the entire set results in hearing fatigue, which ultimately can have the opposite effect. That said, I'm listening to your mix and looking at the waveform in Audacity, and it doesn't sound or look too loud by any means - there's a ton of dynamic range left. Whatever you did to the tracks was probably very subtle, and I wouldn't characterize it as being "super loud".

probably not "super loud" but definitely an increase in intensity. Again check out the AVB Set.. The same dynamics that occur in that set occurs in mine. Probably due to the same process that I'm trying to emulate.

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Naw, we don't need a babysitter for this thread.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN™ probably not "super loud" but definitely an increase in intensity. Again check out the AVB Set.. The same dynamics that occur in that set occurs in mine. Probably due to the same process that I'm trying to emulate.

YOU DON'T FUCKING GET IT

this is fine for mixes meant for an ipod. It doesn't work live.

Get this thru your fucking pea sized brain.

And what ever treatment is done, it is done by someone that knows a little bit about production. You are a monkey with a limiter.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney YOU DON'T FUCKING GET IT this is fine for mixes meant for an ipod. It doesn't work live. Get this thru your fucking pea sized brain. And what ever treatment is done, it is done by someone that knows a little bit about production. You are a monkey with a limiter.

you keep saying that this is fine for mixes played on an Ipod yet the examples I've posted come directly from the event, played and recorded live, with some kind of chain effecting the overall output so that it sounds the way it does throughout the entire mix. I can hear the crowd noise. I listened to this set "live" as it was happening clear across on the other side of the world. How is this meant to be played on an ipod when thousands of people are gathered in an arena listening to the same thing I am in the example.. I swear YOU don't get it!!

added after. They go thru a standard chain to protect the system and account for the setup but the chain isn't meant to master your mix. This is done in post possibly at the same time for people that want to listen. And the crowd is also mixed in. Fuck for all you know that crowd isn't real. Its called broadcast you fucking idiot. Same process used for radio. IF it is played on radio, then it has to meet certain standards which usually will degrade EDM as this mix shows.

you aren't getting the fucking output of the mixer.You aren't actually listening live either.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Feb-28-2013 at 23:59

I think I've accomplished what it is that I set out to accomplish. My mixes after adding Ozone5 sound comparable to those sets I hear coming from other dj's.. Regardless of what the almighty L4C thinks..