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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
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I'm not that far gone yet, that all DSP needs to run on SHARC (might come though)

Love Strymon


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evo8
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Registered: Aug 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Yeah, the urge to get out of the box has never been this big.
It's an irrational craving (as most things you can do with the Cirklon can be done in Cubase and then some) but it's about workflow, getting creative due to limitation


No Raphie, its just about GAS


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evo8
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Registered: Aug 2004
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Re: Synth Choice

quote:
Originally posted by Energy_3
hey guys,

Hope all you are well with everything!

I am pondering or well tossing up the idea of investing in a hardware synth - as at present I am running all VST's and would like to have something i can touch besides my midi controller. If anyone thinks just stick with my VST's I would appreciate your thoughts as well as to why. At the moment im running Sylenth and Gladitor along with all onboard Logic stuff.

I have a reasonable understanding over parameter control as well though I am no expert - but would like to think i have an ear for sound.

I have been looking a Roland JP's and there seems to be better reviews for the 8080 than the 8000 the latter lacking in thickness but being good for pads and the like. I hav considered a Korg MS2000R or something along the lines of that and, one of the Virus range. I have even considered getting an SH1 as I had one before never used it. I really love the late 70's early 80's analogue sound and would love to incorporate that into my style of music - Hard Dance / Trance etc.

Any pointers appreciated or if i didnt explain myself please just ask me to be more specific!

Cheers in advance ...



Nord Lead is a great first synth to get, great interface and sound, reasonably priced


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Richard Butler
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Yeah, but then again I'm becoming an old fart fundamentalist with a hobby

Start to like to noodle around and really start to dislike the stuff that people are doing ITB nowadays. Totally irrational, I know, but I'm near millitant now, on how I want to produce my music going forward

- outboard only, no VSTi's
- midi sequenced only
- 1 run mixdown
- no audio or samples
- leverage onboard sequencers where available (i.e. Tempest, or TT303)

This will provide very minimalistic outcome, of which a lot pattern/sequence based.
No fx (unless generated as a patch via one of my synths), no uplifters, explosions, verby crash cymbals, complextro chops etc etc, none of that fashionable crap



I originally was all outboard and tried various sequencers. My mate bought lovely Fostex hard disk rack recorders - nothing ever looked that nice imo.

I once showed 2 tracks on here from that time and even L4C said something like 'how did you go from there to where you are now', I think he mean't in terms of the sound because he assumed we'd used some hi-end desk with a limiter per channel, but in fact it was a 16 channel TASCAM / TEAC desk made of glorious grey plastic.

We whacked everything through either a bottom end DBX or Beringher compressor.

I think it was somehow a more pleasant sound but I'm not sure if that is just my mind playing tricks.

The synth I would love to try and never have, is the Jupier 8, but also the Jupiter 6 and 4 looked other worldly to me and I really dream of trying one.

Also I have fond memories of noodling with massive KORG Tritons (I think) and being in awe, but never see these mentioned so I'm sorta thinking perhaps they weren't that special afterall.

OP - if it were me I'd go for maybe the Poly Evolver as an all round solution - not sure if in budget though?

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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
OP - if it were me I'd go for maybe the Poly Evolver as an all round solution - not sure if in budget though?


I don't know that I'd call the PE a good all-arounder. It's one of my favorite synths ever, but it's more of a niche synth in many ways and the 4-voice polyphony can be pretty limiting.

I agree with evo8 and tehlord's suggestions, esp. the Nord - it's hard to go wrong with that synth.


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Looney4Clooney
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I originally was all outboard and tried various sequencers. My mate bought lovely Fostex hard disk rack recorders - nothing ever looked that nice imo.

I once showed 2 tracks on here from that time and even L4C said something like 'how did you go from there to where you are now', I think he mean't in terms of the sound because he assumed we'd used some hi-end desk with a limiter per channel, but in fact it was a 16 channel TASCAM / TEAC desk made of glorious grey plastic.

We whacked everything through either a bottom end DBX or Beringher compressor.

I think it was somehow a more pleasant sound but I'm not sure if that is just my mind playing tricks.

The synth I would love to try and never have, is the Jupier 8, but also the Jupiter 6 and 4 looked other worldly to me and I really dream of trying one.

Also I have fond memories of noodling with massive KORG Tritons (I think) and being in awe, but never see these mentioned so I'm sorta thinking perhaps they weren't that special afterall.

OP - if it were me I'd go for maybe the Poly Evolver as an all round solution - not sure if in budget though?


I meant that you went from ok to kinda shitty in 10- 20 years. Software just allows people to fuck things up more


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Energy_3
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Adelaide - Earth
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cheers for the response much appreciated.

I have had a few virus' in the past KB and TI etc both full boards and I had a KS5 as well.

I do have a preference for a true analouge sound i guess or something that will as close as mimic it where possible. I have spent a lot of time using the parameters and controls on my previous hardware so looking to get involved again.

But after a solid synth for leads and bass as well.



P.S i missed you guys its a been too long


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Energy_3
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Adelaide - Earth

I dont mind saving and buying a decent analogue as well - im in music for life so if its the right gear it will stay with me.


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

quote:
Originally posted by Energy_3
I dont mind saving and buying a decent analogue as well -


Keep an eye out for steals on Prophet '08s after the Prophet 12 gets released in coming months. Or, just save $3K and get in line for the P12 (analog/wavetable hybrid).


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Richard Butler
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Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Keep an eye out for steals on Prophet '08s after the Prophet 12 gets released in coming months. Or, just save $3K and get in line for the P12 (analog/wavetable hybrid).




They just have it pinned down now, what a beast.

I wonder when Japan will wake up to this market? Perhaps it doesn't want to.

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Energy_3
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Adelaide - Earth

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
They just have it pinned down now, what a beast.

I wonder when Japan will wake up to this market? Perhaps it doesn't want to.


Yeah always been keen on a Prophet they defintely look the part and from what i here punch out some mean sounds, second hand one would be the go then!

Cryo from memory you have one of Prophet yes?


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Kyle_Jefferson
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Registered: Mar 2013
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Yo, just check out NI Komplete. It's all you need.


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