kids have been ODIng at raves since I was a kid. has anything changed???

Nice documentary I've recently seen about the former New York club, Limelight, and the accompanying drug scene, etc.: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1418702/?ref_=nv_sr_2

You can watch the entire documentary on Amazon for $2.99.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I instinctively know to skip to 5:00+.

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He kinda looks like Jim Breuer.

i remember when 1 pill was all you needed. They were more expensive and you didn't have that , better take 5 to make sure i get a nice buzz. Drugs are just terrible. And i remember recently buying trance pills and there is now a difference between E and MDMA. Apparently the name of the drug and the chemical compound have taken on different meanings due to the quality range. That alone kinda gives you an idea how shitty the drugs are. I don't see the point in doing non prescription drugs. And it isn't something you could say was due to tolerance. rave pills make my gay side shine so it is really something i do if i'm drunk and wearing a cute outfit and i am a little insecure about my shuffling.

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There are still great pills out there. Pills in general are much less popular than they used to be, but that seems to mean when you do happen across them they're the real deal. Not that I would know, of course, as I too am merely trying to look good on the Internet and have no involvement with illegal substances.

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Originally posted by MonkeyFresh It's getting a little insane how major shows are being cancelled because one stupid kid OD's on street purchased drugs. I mean drug dealers are not doctors. Same thing happened during prohibition. When people were making booze in their bathtubs. Gangsters aren't brewmasters.

That's your own fault for not hiding the body until after the show. Kid's these days don't even bother to watch Weekend at Bernies.

Also what are you talking about?

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Originally posted by Chew That's your own fault for not hiding the body until after the show. Kid's these days don't even bother to watch Weekend at Bernies. Also what are you talking about?

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i remember when 1 pill was all you needed. They were more expensive and you didn't have that , better take 5 to make sure i get a nice buzz. Drugs are just terrible. And i remember recently buying trance pills and there is now a difference between E and MDMA. Apparently the name of the drug and the chemical compound have taken on different meanings due to the quality range. That alone kinda gives you an idea how shitty the drugs are. I don't see the point in doing non prescription drugs. And it isn't something you could say was due to tolerance. rave pills make my gay side shine so it is really something i do if i'm drunk and wearing a cute outfit and i am a little insecure about my shuffling.

There has always been a difference between E and MDMA, E white clinicals are more or less pure MDMA, almost all other forms of E are mixtures with anything for heroine to god knows what. If its not white it probably ain't pure MDMA. Also if it ain 't a cap and it is a press it probably ain't a pure.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J This is what happens when a bunch of uneducated and unintelligent teenagers start participating in drug culture en masse without suitable awareness or understanding, simply because it's the current fad. Promoters in the EDM super-festival scene have attempted to play down the drug angle as much possible, distancing their events from any connotations of “rave” and utilising strict security measures to convince authorities that there is a zero-tolerance attitude towards drugs. Despite that, substance use is still rife, education and information is sorely lacking, people are going to keep killing themselves and the events will keep shutting down. I expect the situation will intensify to a peak, the public perception of these events will become extremely negative and the money men will realise the whole enterprise is more trouble than it’s worth. The bubble will burst and the hordes will move on with bovine acquiescence.

Honestly though, the underground events will always go on for the most part. I think the negative media publicity is only such a big problem in the US because of firstly their police state attitude and secondly because electronic music just isn't that popular there. It's much easier to demonise electronic music when 90% of the population almost exclusively listens to pop/rock/hip hop/rnb etc. Hopefully some of the draconian laws I heard about a while back that were actually going to specifically target electronic music didn't get passed.

Here's an Australian perspective from the early 2000s (all 5 parts are avaliable on youtube).

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Originally posted by Psyshell Honestly though, the underground events will always go on for the most part. I think the negative media publicity is only such a big problem in the US because of firstly their police state attitude and secondly because electronic music just isn't that popular there. It's much easier to demonise electronic music when 90% of the population almost exclusively listens to pop/rock/hip hop/rnb etc. Hopefully some of the draconian laws I heard about a while back that were actually going to specifically target electronic music didn't get passed.

It's just not a thing. At all. None of this. I know it's a convenient narrative, because some teenager might have died a few years ago, and the conservative media outlets cried foul of federal lockdown, but the reverberations since the "Rave Act" have been nothing more than utter bullshit as amplified by an online community "progressively" conservative -by the very definition thereof- toward its remotely solipsistic agenda. None of it matters, nobody cares, not even those you suppose to be in charge of such "draconian" policies- frankly, they have much larger fish to fry, and no matter how it is cut, criminality and dance music will never make for an intriguing partnership in North America any more than a drug dealer and his Centrum.

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