I think you might be tone deaf. Really not sure how to help if you can even help. Like asking someone who is daltonian to go pick tomatoes. I mean you at least recognize that your attempts are terrible. So maybe do as I suggested. You need to learn how to hear something and make sense of it. Learn pop tunes. This is not a one step reason refill solution.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney I think you might be tone deaf. Really not sure how to help if you can even help. Like asking someone who is daltonian to go pick tomatoes. I mean you at least recognize that your attempts are terrible. So maybe do as I suggested. You need to learn how to hear something and make sense of it. Learn pop tunes. This is not a one step reason refill solution.

I watch my keys like a hawk.. tell me what's off.. seriously.. I hate stuff that's not in key..

All of them. I don't think you hear western tonality.

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errrrr can you be more specific.. Are you saying my tonality is off based on key structure, or progression, like I,IV, V, I etc. etc. or is it because of dissonance and consonance.. I mean I know notes are supposed to drag other notes along throughout the song, and you can utilize divergence to add intrigue to your track, like subtly adding an E note to an A C D C Chord Progression.. Kind of add some variance and on the way down (or the 1/2 note) sounds quite good.. But I'm lost as far what your talking about.. My tracks sound good to me.. and like I said, I hate off key stuff.. Right down to the kick should be tuned..

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Originally posted by DJRYAN™ I mean I know notes are supposed to drag other notes along throughout the song, and you can utilize divergence to add intrigue to your track, like subtly adding an E note to an A C D C Chord Progression..

E is already in three of those four chords, what are you talking about?

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Originally posted by DJRYAN™ errrrr can you be more specific.. Are you saying my tonality is off based on key structure, or progression, like I,IV, V, I etc. etc. or is it because of dissonance and consonance.. I mean I know notes are supposed to drag other notes along throughout the song, and you can utilize divergence to add intrigue to your track, like subtly adding an E note to an A C D C Chord Progression.. Kind of add some variance and on the way down (or the 1/2 note) sounds quite good.. But I'm lost as far what your talking about.. My tracks sound good to me.. and like I said, I hate off key stuff.. Right down to the kick should be tuned..

Most of your tracks are in modes one would find weird for EDM. I think you have an understanding that is scholastic rather than actually hearing it. It is obvious you use described tonal scales but because you don't hear it as one would, it ends up with a root that forces one to hear it as a mode. This is why it doesn't "pro" which is another word to describe a musical trope that in itself is shitty but it is what you attempt to do but fail.

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Hello i will tell you how i make my arps basically whatever the key of my song is in i go to the fourth or fifth of that note for example

if your song is in the key of c then i make the arp in either f or g
if in d then i write it in g or a
if in e then a or b and so forth

obviously if your in minor you would shift down the correct semi tones.

the first thing i do is create a new chord progression for the arp than the main lead then i usually just make broken chords once you have the 3 or 4 chords you are using make a melody out of that then get creative have some sevenths ,mix minor with major etc what you want to do is make the melody 32 or 16 bars so it evolves over time dont make a 8 bar arp and loop it over and over it will be too boring.

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so basically all your tracks sound the same ?

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No my tracks dont sound the same! I was just giving the guy some general info on how he could go about making tracks, arps, melodies etc again that was just a general vanilla way to get a basic idea down (but, actually he could have easily just looked at the circle of fifths and came up with something inspirational)

I personally dont share my actual secrets that I use to make memorable tracks(each producer has its own way of doing things that they do to get that signature sound we all may do the same thing but we each do it a little bit different. Oh and the info i gave him was just 1 of many things i do when i make a track. Now you got me in the mood to post something maybe ill post some of my work after i eat dinner .

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what you think is a secret was common knowledge a hundred years ago. IU just found it strange how you suggested to add an arp a 4rth above the root. I mean it kinda puts you in a box no ?

and the circle of fifths is a term people love to throw but it doesn't really apply in EDM. dominant tonic movement is not really something you hear or want for that matter never mind a chain of them. That sort of harmony works well for classical music pre beethoven. Id love to take part in your , i know cliche and can apply them, throw down but this coke is not going to snort itself.

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you are on of those guys. Yo check it, i'l ale something in 5 minutes and post a dope video of me showing i'm really into it so you know its chill. Black people and technology......

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