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Syntonic
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Yeah I heard the latest GTG and thought that was a pretty bold thing to say for all the music he has played...95% of the JOOF stuff released is pretty forgettable for me and the psychedelic stuff put out is abominable.


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Location: Brooklyn, NY

The last good Trance tune I remember was The Digital Blonde's remix of Point Zero in 2004, which I believe was first heard on J00f's GTG. I was already steering clear of Trance at that point, but that tune still did it for me. His subsequent album was a big disappointment, and the rest is history, as far as I'm concerned.

Prog-psy was pretty cool back in its heyday of 03'-04', but after that it pretty much lost its appeal, as did all subsequent Trance.

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kosmotika
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Registered: Mar 2014
Location: St Louis

Come on guys...none of these tracks sound anything but modern.
Here's something that was released a few months ago by this dude I found on soundcloud. Really nice oldschool vibes.



As for the "when trance died" discussion, trance isn't dead because you've got people such as myself and D'Jack up there still producing in classic styles and mixing older stuff. Is it as commercially successful as it was in the late 90s? Certainly not. But that doesn't mean it's dead. It just means the commercial bandwagoners jumped another ship, and good riddance to them!


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SYSTEM-J
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There's no easy way to say this, so I won't even try: your music is absolutely terrible, and the kind of cheesy nonsense that ruined the word "trance" in the first place.


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kosmotika
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
There's no easy way to say this, so I won't even try: your music is absolutely terrible, and the kind of cheesy nonsense that ruined the word "trance" in the first place.

So trance was ruined by the mid 90s?


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SYSTEM-J
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There was bucketloads of great trance being made in the mid-90s by people like Andy Ling and Oliver Lieb, but the road to ruin was already being paved by the pizzicato cheesemongers like DJ Quicksilver whom you seem to adore.


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kosmotika
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quote:
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There was bucketloads of great trance being made in the mid-90s by people like Andy Ling and Oliver Lieb, but the road to ruin was already being paved by the pizzicato cheesemongers like DJ Quicksilver whom you seem to adore.

Well really, then you'd have to blame Faithless for that trend. Their track "Insomnia" was the one that really set that short lived trend off.
I really don't think I'd consider tracks like DJ Crack - Space People, The Alternative Creators - Rave Invention, Komakino - I Can't Stop The Motion, Q-Base - Everlasting, ...the list goes on and on...to be tracks that ruined trance.
I'd give the honor of ruining trance to the likes of early 2000s "progressive trance" types who would make 10 minute long hyper-serious pretentious tunes with drawly corny vocals all the way through.
Pizzi trance was one of the popular styles of the "celebration generation" since at that time, clubbing was simply all about having fun, and that fit with the often "happy" sounds of the genre. Doesn't make it cheesy imo...if you want the definition of cheese, have a listen to Special D, Basshunter, Smile DK, Groove Coverage, DeeDee, Tune Up, etc


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SYSTEM-J
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In order words, you think this ruined trance:



But this didn't:



I'm sure you'll find a whole lot of support for that opinion 'round these parts.


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Trance-M
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Perfect title for this awesome track which will be released next month. I bet no-one agrees though, but it still is perfect trance to me:



I'm pretty sure that people who now still like the above, in the mid 90's liked the one below. I'm also pretty sure that some people here who claim to know what decent trance sounds or sounded like, never liked such tracks at all.


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kosmotika
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
In order words, you think this ruined trance:



But this didn't:



I'm sure you'll find a whole lot of support for that opinion 'round these parts.

Well, I'm of the "old school raver" mentality...I like fast placed tunes that go somewhere and don't make me listen to the same loop for 4-5 minutes before some new element kicks in.
There's a reason this slow-paced "progressive" stuff gained popularity at the same time everyone credits trance going to shit (though nobody seems to make the connection) and why trance was at its peak in popularity throughout the 90s while the kind of tracks like the ones I mentioned were being made. It's because these kinds of tracks were fun, you could party to them, you wouldn't just stand around with your arms in the air for an hour and a half, tapping your toe as the DJ played some set that was half Sasha tracks for a bunch of pseudo-hipsters that if you mentioned the name "Westbam" would think it was a city near Wales.
This is the kind of thing I'm into...sorry for piss poor quality but you get the idea.


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SYSTEM-J
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Yes, we all start out like you. Most of us grow out of it.


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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Trance-M
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quote:
Originally posted by kosmotika
Well, I'm of the "old school raver" mentality...I like fast placed tunes that go somewhere and don't make me listen to the same loop for 4-5 minutes before some new element kicks in.
There's a reason this slow-paced "progressive" stuff gained popularity at the same time everyone credits trance going to shit (though nobody seems to make the connection) and why trance was at its peak in popularity throughout the 90s while the kind of tracks like the ones I mentioned were being made. It's because these kinds of tracks were fun, you could party to them, you wouldn't just stand around with your arms in the air for an hour and a half, tapping your toe as the DJ played some set that was half Sasha tracks for a bunch of pseudo-hipsters that if you mentioned the name "Westbam" would think it was a city near Wales.
This is the kind of thing I'm into...sorry for piss poor quality but you get the idea.


The true tranceaddict IMO.


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