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Originally posted by jdub889 out of curiosity, what would you call the innervisions/life and death sound, if not deep house? serious question.

Deep tech house?

I don't think deep house has a set definition, since you have so many different sounds that have all been referred to as 'deep house' in one way or another:

-the slow-mo funk from Moodymann
-the Naked Music/west coast jazzy sound
-the orchestral/funky Innervisions sound
-the German take on it popular a few years ago, with minimal and tech house influences (this is what I'd consider to be most like call 'progressive deep house')
-neo-garage/90's influenced house that people keep calling 'deep house' for some reason

etc.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch -the orchestral/funky Innervisions sound -the German take on it popular a few years ago, with minimal and tech house influences (this is what I'd consider to be most like call 'progressive deep house')

The thing is, I see Innervisions as pretty much a continuation of that melodic minimal German "house" movement. To reuse a quote from the Michael Mayer thread, I think he hit the nail on the head with this quote:

"Currently there is a big Deep House revival. However, if you listen to the Beatport charts, for instance, you merely find something that reaches the thresholds initially set by the likes of Rick Wade and Rheji Burrell among others. It rather sounds like that the minimal generation of the past years started rediscovering Rhodes etc. after their hardcore ketamine period and try to weave in now more soul into their music."

To me, Innervisions and the German "deep house" sound is, essentially, melodic minimal. It's really not too far removed from the more melodic ends of that sound back in 2006 - "neo trance" or whatever you want to call it.

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neo-garage/90's influenced house that people keep calling 'deep house' for some reason

Yeah, this stuff is really big in the UK right now, to the point it's becoming one of the most popular genres with 18 year olds. I think it's quite positive actually that relatively restrained, warm dance music can appeal to kids without being silly. I read a nice theory from someone that this stuff gets called "deep house" because teenagers today associate normal "house" with the ear-splitting big room horror, so this stuff does sound "deep" by comparison. To me it's more of a cross-pollination between UK bass music and house, perhaps an evolution of UK funky. Often I hear these "deep house" tracks and they sound to me like Burial on E or Hyph Mngo with a 4/4 kick.

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Starting to hear younger people in the US referring to "deep house" as well. Disclosure is fucking huge over here, and people are really LATCHing(LOL) onto that sound.

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Originally posted by jdub889 out of curiosity, what would you call the innervisions/life and death sound, if not deep house? serious question.

I would call it a hybrid sound, just as I did, or "deep house". To be honest I think 70% of the tracks that fit that sound are boring as shit. Modern deep house to me is this:



edit: call it fucking 'mantrance', because that's what it is. some cheesy mantrance. 70% mantrance.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch -neo-garage/90's influenced house that people keep calling 'deep house' for some reason

this is what the younger generation in my area calls deep house, if we're talking about the same stuff. i've heard it called "future garage" which seems aptly descriptive (if a bit annoying that it seems like every generation we get a new adjective to describe a modern take on an old sound ... "neo" this, "post" that).

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Originally posted by enydo Starting to hear younger people in the US referring to "deep house" as well. Disclosure is fucking huge over here, and people are really LATCHing(LOL) onto that sound.

disclosure is, of course, the biggest act playing this sort of music right now. don't get me wrong, i love disclosure, but never in a million years would i call their sound "deep house."

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I read a nice theory from someone that this stuff gets called "deep house" because teenagers today associate normal "house" with the ear-splitting big room horror, so this stuff does sound "deep" by comparison.

this is absolutely the reason that the term "deep house" gets bandied about and slapped on everything these days.

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Originally posted by jdub889 this is what the younger generation in my area calls deep house, if we're talking about the same stuff. i've heard it called "future garage" which seems aptly descriptive (if a bit annoying that it seems like every generation we get a new adjective to describe a modern take on an old sound ... "neo" this, "post" that).

Future garage is something a little different. It's a bit more experimental, "post-dubstep" if you like. But the two sounds are definitely related.

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Yeah, I'd say Future Garage is the Blawan, Joy Orbison, Falty DL stuff... and stuff like Disclosure, option4, etc is just plain ol' Garage. Since it seems much more linearly consistent with the Speed Garage of the late 90's - a song like the following could have come out alongside Spin Spin Sugar and nobody would bat an eyelash.

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Man, Future Garage was such a 2009/2010 genre. At a time when people still had hope for the whole dubstep thing. Absolutely everyone who was big making that stuff moved on to other things, mostly straight house/techno or footwork/instrumental hip hop based stuff. I guess in a way Footwork/Juke have become the new dubstep where people use it as a templete to put new/weird stuff on top of it. And then there's of course the whole grime-based thing that Keysound/Pinch etc. have pushed in the last one or two years. I'm not sure what genre you'd even call a label like Livity Sound but it's certainly not dubstep or garage.

Now, whenever you hear 'Future Garage' it's almost certainly some Bandcamp Indie producer that has never heard any electronic music that isn't Burial or Boards Of Canada.

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Really diggin' this proggy deep house chune at the moment.

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Proggy deep house or deep prog house...who cares. Chilling melodic track:

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