Oh I knew that hahha, I just couldn't put together what you typed correctly, FYI it does matter to have proper grammar and punctuation because saves so much time on debating or having discussions on something. Everyone can understand you correctly.

Here's what I was talking about. I'm sure it would be useful to some djs.

http://www.reloop.com/reloop-rp-8000

Anyway enough with midi i agree that its a dumb feature like loading a track onto a another deck when you do with the laptop.

Imo its just step forward toward to new things.

Palm your like TA's internet Mime LOL like itsmemario.

It plays 100% analog vinyl bro

Shit is heavy duty.

Shit is hybrid.

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Originally posted by clay a heavy duty dj turntable is made to play back vinyl 100% analog. not timecode for mp3 computer djeing, that route was a mistake from the start. either go analog (turntable and mixer), or digital (cdj timecode, PC mp3/wav). not something in between where you get the worst of both worlds, the shitty sound of mp3 and PC lagging, and the shitty engine of a turntable as well as unstabile usb.

I don't think it was a mistake. It was an evolution. It helped transition a lot of old school vinyl users to the digital age without giving up the look and feel of a vinyl turntable.

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I'm with Paulino on this one;

Pioneer had the option to go further and do timecode control turntable. The Reloop model did do it, but reloop are really crap as a company (I used to service some of their stuff) and secondly choices they made for parts like the tonearm and buttons were not smart.

Granted it's only $799 and when you put it in to perspective that the new Pioneer one is $100 less and doesn't do a fraction of what the Reloop does, the pioneer starts looking like really bad value and the reloop starts to look like quite the bargain.

And this is where I think Pioneer have completely missed the mark:

Removable Power cable. Wow.
Removable RCAs. Golly.
2 lbs heavier. Great.
Rubber inside the tone arm. Amazing.
CDJ style start/stop button. gosh.

The removable cables are nice for installers but I plug my techs in and out maybe once a year. The weight difference won't mean anything. Rubber inside the tonearm? There may be some engineering merit to it but honestly, I'd prefer the Technics tonearm which is the best. CDJ start button? We know how those hold up to abuse.

Now combine that with the fact it's made by Pioneer who don't make either the best sounding or the best lasting kit, you get all this for $700.

The missed a massive chance here; They should have made a timecode turntable. By that I don't mean midi (both MTC and MMC are awful for time based control for anything precise) - they should have made it stream control data (Serato or Traktor) and then it would have been a serious contender.

This crap? Nothing more than a marginal difference to Techs but I trust Technics' build quality and not pioneer's.

Not that its a big feature but can be useful that I like thats on both reloop and pioneer is no grounding cable. That thingy breaks real easily.

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Not that its a big feature but can be useful that I like thats on both reloop and pioneer is no grounding cable. That thingy breaks real easily.

Why do people keep saying this? The ground cable only breaks if you forget to unplug it and move the turntable.

Otherwise it's only a 20min mod to internally ground the unit.

Because it breaks easily and um majority of djs don't do mods, they just dj.

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Because it breaks easily and um majority of djs don't do mods, they just dj.

Please explain how it breaks easily? I've owned 6 pairs of different technics (Mk2's, M3d's, Mk5g's) over the last 16 years, moved twice back and forth over the Atlantic and have never had one break on me.

It only breaks if you forget to unscrew it and move the turntable where upon the 26lbs of 1210 will snap that cable.

Other that that, it does not break.

Sure DJ's don't do mods, but show me a decent mixer that does not have the ground hookup. Why is it so difficult? I just don't get it.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Please explain how it breaks easily? I've owned 6 pairs of different technics (Mk2's, M3d's, Mk5g's) over the last 16 years, moved twice back and forth over the Atlantic and have never had one break on me. It only breaks if you forget to unscrew it and move the turntable where upon the 26lbs of 1210 will snap that cable. Other that that, it does not break. Sure DJ's don't do mods, but show me a decent mixer that does not have the ground hookup. Why is it so difficult? I just don't get it.

If your moving your turntable around because you got a new table or whatever, you step on it and move and plow your done. You pill on it to hard and it can breaks. Its not like an rca cable. Its one of the skinniest un durable cable ever that could be used. How can you see not break its common sense.