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Originally posted by LazerGuy also college is usually only 2 years where university is 4+ years

thats not true... . most courses are 3, only very few are 2. at least at mohawk.

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Originally posted by Dr. Z Some of you might disagree, its only my opinion.

yup

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University - theory, leading to real world application near the end

That is true. Only towards the end of your education you learn something you can apply, while in college you learn things you can apply in real life, right from first year.

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enables you to explore farther than what you have learned.

Totally agree with you there, in univ you learn to learn and learn to learn more.

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As well, requirements for boss positions

Most people still think this is true, but it isn't. Experience gives you those requirements.

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College - application, training to be a machine, locked in a factory fishbowl with few skills.

Trained to be a machine. I don't understand how you came up with this statement. Are you saying college education and hands-on experience cripples the person to think by themselves?

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lucky if with more than one skill

To what extend are you referring to a 'skill' ? when you come out of university
you can preform open heart surgery as well as design a bridge?

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lack of carreer expansion

Again, experience and being good at what you do provides you the opportunity of carreer expansion but I will agree univ education does *help*.

It really depends on what you want to do. I took a three year program at Seneca college, and met several ex university students as well as university graduates from other diciplines and have yet to meet one that thinks she has learned more applicable material at a university than a college.

You were right, I disagree.

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Originally posted by djRyan Jonathon University is were the profesionals are....Lawyers, doctors, pharmacists need I say more, ur not gunna find them at college. Buts its all good I guess

Yup, you will not find a college that makes you a lawyer or a doctor, but you _will_ find doctors and lawyers at colleges. They are either teaching there or are students themselves who want to learn other things that only college can offer.

By the way, there are college programs for pharmacists.

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Originally posted by cycloptor thats not true... . most courses are 3, only very few are 2. at least at mohawk.

same thing...to sum it up, univeristy is longer

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i dunno if any of you guys have considered this too .. but when my brother was looking for a job in the US and applied for a working visa.. they required him to have a DEGREE to be eligible. He's not working as a software engineer in the states after graduating here as an electrical engineer.

SO .. i dunno if things have changed since then , but i think that if you wanna have portability in terms of working abroad, then it's definately worth going to university , especially if it's a reputable school. Otherwise.. if you plan on staying in TO ur whole life, then it shouldn't really matter as much..

on another note, i think it's easier getting things like an MBA , or Ph.D/ Masters.. if u already have a Bachelor's degree in something from university..

---> btw. finally if u wanna get the best of both worlds.. come to Ryerson.. u'll get practical experience like a college, but a degree when u graduate! and not all the programs here are 4 years long .. so u get the one up on college peeps ! altho .. nothing beats the social life and partying of an out of town uni imho .. maybe 'cept Waterloo.. i hear that place is DRY (correct me if i'm wrong)..

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everyone claims that Western has the best and most parties..is this true????

oh and if it is, i think im safer in ryerson, cos as it is i cant study for shit and with extra partying added, ill be paying 6 grand a year to party

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most of my friends that go to colleges comaplain a lot that there's no party life .. it think which is partially due to being located in Toronto ..

and they also often complain that colleges are very ghetto ..

is this true ?? if so , what is it about colleges that attract ghetto people ??

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maybe 'cept Waterloo.. i hear that place is DRY (correct me if i'm wrong)..

I study at UW and let me tell you: whether Waterloo is dry or not is totally up to you... Some people here study all day/night long. Others take it easy. Pubs on university plaza are packed every day of the week and we have a wicked nightclub(Revolution) as well.


I think the most important thing that university teaches you, which college doesn't is: THINK. You may not take it seriously, but it's true - many people just don't know how to think. And the goal of university is to teach you that. University also teaches you time and stress management, both very important skills for any employee.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL most of my friends that go to colleges comaplain a lot that there's no party life .. it think which is partially due to being located in Toronto .. and they also often complain that colleges are very ghetto .. is this true ?? if so , what is it about colleges that attract ghetto people ??

Because you didn't need OAC to go to college. I dunno how the new system works, but university needed more requirements for acceptance. And these ghetto people were probably too cool for high school.

I think it all depends on what you want to do. They will both train you for your job, and you will have the knowledge you need to get by, but University gives you more of an opportunity to go above and beyond in academics thruogh graduate studies.

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Having been in College and Now being in University...

they're BOTH stressful.

There's no escaping it.


However, you're more likely to find a good paying job after University than College.



For all those positions like JAVA PROGRAMMER and what not... Just because you went to College for that, doesn't mean you'll be looked at. Those kinds of jobs are looking for University Grads who know Java Programming.

You honestly think they're gonna pay you $60K/a starting when you have only a College diploma? Keep dreaming.

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Originally posted by Rev. Paroxyzm You honestly think they're gonna pay you $60K/a starting when you have only a College diploma? Keep dreaming.

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Originally posted by Durafei I study at UW and let me tell you: whether Waterloo is dry or not is totally up to you... Some people here study all day/night long. Others take it easy. Pubs on university plaza are packed every day of the week and we have a wicked nightclub(Revolution) as well. I think the most important thing that university teaches you, which college doesn't is: THINK. You may not take it seriously, but it's true - many people just don't know how to think. And the goal of university is to teach you that. University also teaches you time and stress management, both very important skills for any employee.

i suppose ur right ... a lotta my friends at Loo are in programs like Engineering which is like 85% male right .. ? so it'z almost like living in a monestary , 4 years of life in celebacy ..

but i can see ur point .. i guess in the end it's always up to the person. Altho i still think that in some schools you gotta look for the fun, and in others .. fun comes to you ..

that's gotta be the diff !

and agree on the job salary too .. i think in the late 90's during the tech boom it was definately the employee's market, get a job just saying u can program HTML .. but today with the economy struggling, they're definately gotta keep a closer eye on one's credentials..

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