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PaULiN0
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tehlord
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Originally posted by inversoundzzz
You mean warmth in a mix?

you create warmth with a careful combination of mixing techniques:

compression
multibandcompression
sidechaining/routing
filters/eq
note selection
sound design
FX/send/return tracks
song arrangement

and some others too...


You're just saying stuff at random.


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PaULiN0
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Hmm, I think fairchild. Best compressor for analogue warmth.

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quote:
Originally posted by inversoundzzz
You mean warmth in a mix?

you create warmth with a careful combination of mixing techniques:

compression
multibandcompression
sidechaining/routing
filters/eq
note selection
sound design
FX/send/return tracks
song arrangement

and some others too...


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Lucidity
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quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Hmm, I think fairchild. Best compressor for analogue warmth.


Try Kush Ubk, that is my favorite compressor for the warm/saturated type of compression and it basically has like 5 different compressors in one. (5 different algorithims/styles)


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Raphie
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digital warmth is an oxymoron


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quote:
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digital warmth is an oxymoron


Ah one of the infamous excuses to validate hardware purchases by. Yes.


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Raphie
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There is a clear difference, but it can be done ITB as well
my tips for warmth:
- don't use additive EQ (> cut elsewhere)
- use reelbus http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-reelbus/
keep your RMS levels sane

IMHO all decapitators, toob emu's, saturators, distressor plugins "analogue" compressors ALL do more harm than good.
The best productions I get in my inbox are the most "clean" ones. Decent levels no crap on top for the sake of it.
often people confuse warmth with a hazy phasey artificial sound.
When talking real analogue warmth, it sounds more like 90ties loudness buttons (fletcher munson) but still very much in focus and real, not phasey plasticcy....
compare your tracks to i.e. Alexander o niell, Luthervandross or S.O.S. band for warmth and you hear what i mean.


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Raphie
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Ah one of the infamous excuses to validate hardware purchases by. Yes.
BTW define warm? do you consider your soundcloud tracks warm?


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Storyteller
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quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
There is a clear difference, but it can be done ITB as well


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quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
BTW define warm? do you consider your soundcloud tracks warm?


Warmth for me is character imposed on sound by (mostly) the use of eq's/compression with distinct characteristics. Tape carriers could be applicable too (ironically I own a 80's tape recorder but never use it). Whilst I believe my tracks usually have a very round sound to it which is somewhat distinguishable I would not call them warm. Apart from maybe one private snippet.

On the other hand I hear tons of track which I'd consider to be very warm coming from a macbook mid-air in between Amsterdam and New York as well as a lot of music routed through armies of analogue equipment which cost more than I'll make in a lifetime sounding like a flacid penis tapping on slightly melting ice cubes.

It's not the tools which are the problem anymore these days. It's the cook.


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