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Originally posted by deegee TV speakers are generally crap, have no bass (essential for dance music). You know this. What really happened here is you posted a thread where what you expected was people to say O YES UR RITE. This is a common thing to do, I'm not judging it. But just saying 'nonsense' over and over again isn't even pretending to have a discussion. "This is nonsense because XYZ," however, is.

You're completely on the wrong route.
First, I don't see many people in this thread at all.
Second, if my intention was to measure my dick and claiming to be just right I wouldn't have admitted what he posted later was actually dynamic. And if you've been enough careful, during this beautiful debate, you would've noticed I always ask and hope for arguments to develop a good and informative discussion.

You're making totally wrong deductions.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

"Good and informative discussion" doesn't start with saying "nonsense, nonsense, nonsense, nonsense, nonsense."

Doesn't matter how it starts, but how it develops.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

Wrong on all counts there, sorry. If you want to claim the high ground in any discussion--if, indeed, you want to claim you were aiming for a discussion in the first place--it behooves you to actually, you know, discuss.

I don't have to underline I'm aiming for a discussion. Hello...we're in a forum.

However so far you didn't contribute in any way here.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

Hopefully I contributed to you learning how to have a discussion. Cheers.

Now is confirmed.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

EDM is the last place I look for "beautiful dynamics." It's compressed to hell for a reason - loudness and energy. The dynamics in EDM come in the form of song structure (i.e., breakdowns vs drops) and even on a macro-scale with DJ mixes (i.e., breakdowns vs drops vs transitions). If you want dynamics at the micro-scale, look elsewhere.

That's my two cents worth of nonsense. Carry on.

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Sorry but I have paid for at least four cents worth of nonsense so please continue.

(Also, obviously, you're right. All dance music is compressed to hell and back, what we're dickering over is +10 compression vs +9)

Well yes, if we look at dynamic in its broader meaning dubstep is very dynamic actually.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

Not really no. Look at the waveform of a dubstep track--or almost any dance music track. Peaks are pretty much uniform except in breakdowns, and that I am pretty sure is mainly an artifact of how kicks are represented visually.

Dance music has very little dynamic range by design. Can't slow the punters down.

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Originally posted by deegee Sorry but I have paid for at least four cents worth of nonsense so please continue.

This nonsense should cover the rest:

The Loudness War is Over!!!!

Yup.

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