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Oh I'll tell you what Isis wants
What they really really want
Oh tell me what Isis wants what they really really want

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I believe they want to be seen as a legitimate Caliphate. I have not read the aforementioned book.


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its an article in the Atlantic magazine.


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Originally posted by DJ RANN

In it's conservative form, everyone outside of Islam is an enemy. I don't say this to antagonize - the Quran is clear on this - there are 109 verses in the book that call followers to war against non-believers to sustain Islamic rule.


We can basically say this about the other 2 of 3 religions (Christianity and Judaism)


Infidels (ie non believers) should be stoned and or killed without qualms

“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you … Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.” (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)"


Should we not dissect all relgions and find people who are somewhat faithful, then question their merits in their professions and liveley hood based on the literal interpretations of the books?

I mean it's really silly when you think about it. All religions were created equally and one is just as irrational as the rest.

So we should either focus on the real problem, the people who have these radical ideas, isolate them as groups of such people and deal with them as criminals if they indeed act upon their beliefs.


OR should we simply abolish all organized faiths which are based on intangible facts, and aspire towards a civilization of higher learning.

I'm ok with either. But what i dont think is ok is a christian saying Islam is bad, or Judaism is bad etc.

Religion is not good or bad. It's mythology, so keep your fairy tales to yourselves in the comfort of your own homes.

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I think the theological edifice is quite literal; words conveying extrasensorial perception and moral orientation. I believe these individuals witnessed supernatural phenomena associated to as-yet unknown physics and realms of the 'self'.

Jesus Christ was an exorcist. There are X-Files pertaining to the existence of 'demonic' possessions of the human 'will' and 'psyche' of humans or non-human passed. The scientific community finds no consensus; Quantum entanglement might hold the key; extra-dimensions of space time and higher levels of consciousness are attainable to the conduit.


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Interesting read, thanks for the link.

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Re: Anyone read "what ISIS really wants" by Graem Wood in the recent Atlantic Magazine?

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange
http://www.theatlantic.com/features...y-wants/384980/

Highly recommend it to anyone interested in currewnt events, news, history, politics, etc.

TLDR: ISIS wants the world to return to the 6th century and bring about the end of the world. The real Islam is a religion full of bad ideas.


Really good Graeme Wood interview about this issue

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-true-believers

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