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Originally posted by cryophonik Every one of my/our songs is copyrighted. That wouldn't stop someone from "stealing" them. But, tbh, if they did, yeah I would probably be a little pissed and could easily demonstrate to a judge that it was my copyrighted track. But, to what end? To prove a point to the loser who stole my song? Make him pay what would amount to a fraction of my lawyer fees? Naw, not worth my time or energy. I would certainly let the loser know that I'm aware that he stole my music and possibly go a little out of my way to embarrass him, but anything more is just not worth it to me. But, if I was in my 20s and trying to hit it big, yeah, I would probably feel a bit different about it. Just to be clear, I'm not trying to "make it", nor am I an "EDM artist", nor would I ever quit my day job to be a superstar producer/DJ. I'm in my 40s, have a family and a job that pays more than most DJs could dream of, and will only make me more money as I get older doing something that I love to do and contributes positively to humanity. Being a superstar DJ is something that young single guys (and pathetic old losers without a chance in hell of ever making it) dream of. So, no, that's nowhere near my intention.

And I think you hit on some good points. I to am in my 40's and I couldn't care less. However, the difference is here that (sorry to say this to ya Dave, but I have to disagree...) YOU DO have songs credited to your name using vocalist (that aren't from a remix stem) who actually sing to YOUR music in the electronic realm...sorry brodda, you are a "electronic" artist =OP The rest of us are just peons in the same water compared to you and Richard. Not making it sound degrading or putting you two on a pedestal but it's the truth.
The point? For someone like me, even if I was young enough to "make it" I would still be on the same level as I am now.
Guys like you have way more security in knowing that because you ARE somewhat established,legit, whatever you want to call it. Your music is more...secure. Guys like me? Im learning and growing and have potential but if I try to gain more exposure and someone steals it from me? I think I would be pissed. Thank god Im older and wiser and beyond my years...couldn't care less.
So, in essence...yea, it comes down to the intentions of the artist.
If you don't care, who cares. However, if your ambitious enough I guess you would do something about it and based on being able to prove it.
Sorry Richard if this hijacked your op, I just saw some interesting replies.

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Last edited by SystematicX1 on Mar-07-2015 at 08:03

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Originally posted by scorpradio However, the difference is here that (sorry to say this to ya Dave, but I have to disagree...) YOU DO have songs credited to your name using vocalist (that aren't from a remix stem) who actually sing to YOUR music in the electronic realm...sorry brodda, you are a "electronic" artist

I don't disagree that I make electronic music and that some of it is dance music. My point was that I don't consider myself an "EDM artist" because that's just one style that I make and it's not even my favorite or best style. It seems like most of the guys here are far better at trance and house than I'll ever be.

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cit. "Back then people danced to a dj set. Nowdays they are recording it with their smart phones."

What are you doing?

If I recall, there's some loophole for compilations / mixes...a lot of DJs back in the day legally sold cds without permission from the artists whose tracks they used because they were marketed as promotional releases, and said things like "You're paying for the artwork, mastering, compiling, etc"
If you're going to be 'chasing the label' as you say (I wouldn't), you'll want to contact Beatport directly about the matter and see if they can give you sales figures for the track. Once you've got proof that they are in fact making money off your song, contact the label and try arrange an agreement.

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My tracks have appeared on countless labels and compilations that I've had no clue about, and was never asked about prior. It seems I'm always the last to know. I chalk it up to the consistent anal pillaging that is the norm with a lot of labels. I've become numb to it.

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