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Vortex_SA
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Originally posted by dj dimwit
I was going to make a new thread about this problem, but maybe I'd better put it in here too.

You see, when I'm making a track, everything sounds great. But when it's completed, I listen to it with headphones and it sounds crappy... The bassdrum doesn't sound...erm .. full, like it's a bit away or something. And the bassline doesn't sound very good too.

So when playing it on a good sound system, it's perfect, but when it comes to headphones etc. it's crap. I've tried different things, like removing <20 hz and >16000 hz, putting the bassdrum through a compressor and an eq, but it's still hard to get it sound like professional trance tracks do. Mantisnl (Luuk) and myself are working on this, but...... it's hard.

Can anyone help me with this? Or should we make a thread about this, 'cause I think many producers have this problem...

Thanx!


if ur hearing it in a system and it sounds "good" and on headphones its crappy, that mean that the system is not really good a good system should replicate the sound as is, probably on ur system there is a bass boost that makes the bass sound better, i suggest u to do the sound issues on headphones (monitors are better, but i guess u dont have any me niether... ) and then hear it on a system to check out how it would sound on a system, and i suggest checking it in at least 3 different systems to check if u were doing something wrong (again u can replace the "3 systems" with "monitors" ) oh, and make sure u balance the sound of the headphones, many headphones comes with bass boosts and this sort of things, then check it before u begin...


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Arty
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Edinburgh, UK

Actually it's probably more fundamental than that, and totally unavoidable.

At different volumes your ears hear different frequencies in different proportions. When you hear something on a quiet system, e.g. your headphones, you will hear much less bass and treble, proportionately, than on a loud system. It's just the way that people's ears work. Comparing a system to a club to a normal stereo system, the stereo would only sound the same in terms of overall proportions as in the club if you turned up the bass and treble by several decibels. As well as the bass, you will probably hear this effect on any high hi-hats that you have.

This explains why, on your (quieter) headphones, the bass and kick are much less prominent than on a proper system. You should stick to the balance that you achieve on a proper system if you're looking to have tunes played in clubs, but it's nice if it's listenable on other systems too so try playing with the EQs of the bass and kick to give them more 'cut' maybe, but don't worry about it too much. If you listen to mix CDs quietly then the bass doesn't stick out too much either. It's normal.

Incidentally, you might noitice that if you're mixing on your decks at a lowish volume then cutting out a few Db of your mid clears up the sound nicely - records are designed to be played loud

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Thanx for the help people.
So I guess I'll just have to have to make sure my tracks sound allright on a normal sound system, and then not worry much more

But I'm not completely satisfied. You see, I'm trying to learn how to master my tracks now. I have a program called 'T-racks', and I was hoping that with this program I would be able to solve the problems mentioned above. So maybe there are some people here who can give me some tips about mastering?


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