tomorrows dinner consists of a rack of lamb (for myself) and a mushroom salad. i may even make broth from the bones and drink every last piece of blood that sheeps rib has to offer

It's time we rise up and start eating ALL the red meat!

I'm talking bacon fried steak, bacon salad, 8 decker hamburgers, and whole pigs on our pizza.

Just had a billion dollar idea: Bacon vending machines!

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Originally posted by planetaryplayer tomorrows dinner consists of a rack of lamb (for myself)

Good call. Lamb is amazing.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN We had a vote a little over a year ago which was purely about labeling GMO's and then another vote about salt and sodium content and both got lobbied so hard by big Agriculture that neither got voted in. The general voting public can be so dumb at times.

you know there is no reason to label GMO food, right? well, i mean other than to pander to the scientifically illiterate and/or organic business machine.

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futurama had a good episode on GMOs

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Originally posted by Zoso I think we've at least reached the point where public (govt/regulatory) interests and general consumer demands are causing the pendulum to begin to swing the other way. We still have a long, long way to go, however. Of course some foods will still require at least a minimum amount of processing for stability and shelf life, but not all 250 ingredients we can't even pronounce! Also: Bear's Head advertising makes it sound like your sammich is SEX.

I think you're right - it is getting to the point that consumers are driving the demand to make suppliers change their mind. With the power of media now, it only takes a single damning report to drastically affect a whole industry.

There are some things we need an should keep in terms of preservatives but when you hear shit like Subway using Yogamat foam in their bread (which is why it never goes off) or the fact that George W Bush pushed though a law that made filming in any animal processing plant (read: slaughterhouse) illegal, you wonder America has let this crap happen.

With the popularity of places like Whole Foods, Sprouts and Pavillions, not to mention the surge in organic food again, it means the indusry is haveing to adapt.

The sad part is the lower end of the market is the last that will see the change. It's really quite difficult if you're poor and live in an urban area to eat quality meat, or unprocessed foods.

If you food shop at target or walmart, you're basically fucked.

Just go to the cereal isle in your local US supermarket and try to find one withoit a ton of chemicals or number-suffix ingredients.

One other thing that people don't realize here in the USA is that the standard of meat is much lower.

For instance: If you buy a Steak labelled "lean" in the UK, it's 95% lean. You buy that same steak here, it will be 90% (probably 85%) at best. Furthermore, the measuring metrics and tolerances are different so 100% lean in the USA is 90% lean in the UK.

So basically a 90% lean in the USA is actually 80% by European standards.

I saw an really interesting interview with Rob Lowe (of all people about this). He eloquently stated that beef is an incredibly lazy way to get protein in to your body, and as a protein, it's incredibly basic so nutritionally it's really not a great food stuff anyway.

I fucking love bacon though.

don't see anything bout grounds being labeled lean around here lol. you can visibly see what is lean or not in a steak. the most expensive cuts are fattier anyway- prime rib, strip loin, filet mignon/tenderloin. plus if its wagyu you will be paying way more, and its way fattier. FAT IS FLAVOUR.
with the price of red meats really high right now (was a huge recall a few years back effecting pricing to this date in canada) a lot of people are going mostly chicken and pork from what I've been noticing. what a shame. if i could buy a 2lb prime rib steak full of fat daily i most certainly would. fight off dat cancer with some food that is 'believed to reduce cancer'

Hmm, I consider filet minion (the kind of steak I eat if I do it one) a lean cut of meat. I know it's not the leanest, but it's a lot leaner than other cuts of choice red meat.

Were you referring to steak or ground beef, Rann, as far as the UK vs US comparison?

Pink slime. Mmmmmmmm.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you know there is no reason to label GMO food, right? well, i mean other than to pander to the scientifically illiterate and/or organic business machine.

YES ITS ONLY TINFOIL HAT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THAT NEED FOOD LABELING

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Originally posted by DJ RANN YES ITS ONLY TINFOIL HAT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS THAT NEED FOOD LABELING

you didn't answer my question. do you accept that there is no need to label GM produce or not? if not, what is it about GM food you think is qualitatively different to conventional produce?

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Does vagina count as red meat? If so I've been eating healthy for a few months.

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