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Originally posted by Lira It's just weird. It's probably a cultural thing, with gluttony being a sin (whereas turning your lungs into lumps of coal and drinking your liver to a pulp aren't).

More likely it's just a hangover from school days where most bullying happens. Smoking and drinking are "cool" to an adolescent but being fat and unfit are open subjects to playground mockery. And obesity is visually obvious and generally considered physically unattractive. Smoking and drinking don't have such obvious aesthetic effects.

With that said, I don't think a social stigma around obesity is necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone responds to tough love, but a culture of acceptance around the subject would probably be worse, as most people are happy to shy away from their problems if there isn't a regular painful reminder that forces them to confront them. I don't think bullying is inherently a bad thing, and if you're bullying someone about something they have direct control of, such as their weight, eating habits and lifestyle, it can be constructive. By contrast, bullying someone for something they have no power to control or change is just cruelty, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J More likely it's just a hangover from school days where most bullying happens. Smoking and drinking are "cool" to an adolescent but being fat and unfit are open subjects to playground mockery. And obesity is visually obvious and generally considered physically unattractive. Smoking and drinking don't have such obvious aesthetic effects. With that said, I don't think a social stigma around obesity is necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone responds to tough love, but a culture of acceptance around the subject would probably be worse, as most people are happy to shy away from their problems if there isn't a regular painful reminder that forces them to confront them. I don't think bullying is inherently a bad thing, and if you're bullying someone about something they have direct control of, such as their weight, eating habits and lifestyle, it can be constructive. By contrast, bullying someone for something they have no power to control or change is just cruelty, in my opinion.

Is this your first time in a cult? Lololololol.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J More likely it's just a hangover from school days where most bullying happens. Smoking and drinking are "cool" to an adolescent but being fat and unfit are open subjects to playground mockery. And obesity is visually obvious and generally considered physically unattractive. Smoking and drinking don't have such obvious aesthetic effects.

That's also a good point. I'm trying to understand how it would apply here, because this may well be a cultural quirk of ours... But, as I recall it, kids would not pick on fatties in middle and high school. I remember kids mocking "poofters", whomever they took to be an "idiot", and people with a temper.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J With that said, I don't think a social stigma around obesity is necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone responds to tough love, but a culture of acceptance around the subject would probably be worse, as most people are happy to shy away from their problems if there isn't a regular painful reminder that forces them to confront them.

Couldn't there be some sort of middle-ground though?

I'm not sure bullying works, as bullied children are more likely to suffer from adult obesity. If they turn to food for emotional comfort, bullying will only turn it into a vicious circle, won't it?

Sure, when social justice warrior complain fit bodies are "unrealistic" and "all bodies are beautiful", this could turn an unhealthy lifestyle into the new normal, but I'm not sure doing the exact opposite is a good idea either.

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Originally posted by Silky Johnson It actually does affect me when I have to roll and turn these people, or wipe their ass and change their nasty rotting dressings for them when they end up in the hospital. They are the biggest (lol) risk for injury. Hurt my back or shoulder caring for some behemoth and goodbye career. Overweight people are a huge drain on health care, and thus, society as a whole. There are "other lifestyle choices" sure, but the majority of people who end up in hospital are overweight - and their health issues are all related to that, plain and simple. It costs thousands of dollars a day for a hospital bed, and overweight people have longer hospital stays and have more frequent/repeat hospital admissions. Fuck outta here with "it doesn't affect you." It sure as hell does.

Ok, well I forgot you were a nurse, so... Fuck!

And like I said I agree with the health care argument, but smokers cost a fuckload of money to the system, as do people with a variety of eating disorders from binge eaters to chicks who starve themselves until they weigh 60 pounds soaking wet. (Both of those being considered real illnesses) Not to mention alcoholics, drug users, and a massive amount of people who ignore symptoms for something like depression and end up being put on expensive medications or have to spend weeks in a psych ward.

Then we have people who ignore dental hygiene and need oral surgery intervention to prevent heart attacks from gum disease, and of course the delightful category of people who just refuse to take whatever medication has been prescribed to them and end up in the hospital over and over.

Why aren't people from all those categories getting railed on as hard as the fatties? Those are all choices, I believe, and result in hospitalization and expensive treatment, and some of those are even easier to take care of than losing a significant amount of weight.

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Ok, well, the answer is probably because of all the lifestyle "choices" I listed, being fat is the one that makes you the most ugly.

Although I gotta say turning yellow from liver failure or having to smoke through a throat vagina are also pretty nasty.

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Yes, being extremely fat is repugnant. You wanna join my cult or not? Shiet.

Can I smoke

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Originally posted by Silky Johnson You wanna join my cunt or not?

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Alex, smoke... pole? Lolol.

The only time fat people bother me:
-Seeing them at the beach.
-Sitting next to them on a flight or movie.
-Wearing form fitting clothing.
-Watching them over eat at a buffet.

Comedians should get a waiver though. I guess because I've never been fat I don't get it.

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Samoans are the only fat fucks I fucks with.

They make good linemen