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rupert
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: bris vegas

The problems with africa are many and varied depending on the region, almost invariably it comes down to economic issues.

To be blunt the west quite literally strangles the third world with "free trade" and debt.

1)Abolishing the debt goes only part of the way but would be an excellent start.

2)Africa should be exempt from free trade rules as laid down by the WTO which are neither free nor fair.

3)Countries that have IMF advisors not just in africa, should kick them out, the IMF policies of strict budget austerity and market liberalisation are absolute poison to developing countries. They never work, NEVER. Yet the West forces it on the third world.

4) Western money that is spent on farm subsidies particularly the USA and EU should be spent on halting desertification and land degredation in Africa. Africa can only compete in the supply of minerals and agriculture, but they are up against inefficient farmers in the west who get handouts in the form of subsidies from corrupt politicians.

5) Money should be directed towards AIDS prevention and education. Often the case is that african governments divert resources from vital social programs into 1)paying off debt, 2) maintaining currency reserves to shore up their currency if the money markets turn against them, 3) corrupt and wasteful expenditure on weapons- supplied by the west or sometimes on siphoning the money into foreign bank accounts.

6) Africa should form a trading block, start small and build from there

7) Programs should be instituted by the West into proper goverance, many of the african countries are riven by tribalism, cronyism and corruption. Western universities should sponsor millions of africans to learn proper financial management and governence standards.

8) this will in turn lead to the most important thing for development which is investment. Investors looking for places to spend their money want a degree of security that their factory or refinery or whatever isnt going to be blown to bits in a war or its workers wont get murdered on the way to work in some tribal dispute.

Nov-02-2002 05:35 Australia

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Miss Proximus
titelloos

Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Block II, Cell 13

I have mixed feelings about this.

Before I came to South Africa I had this idea that the whole world is trying very hard to build for our futures and that pollution is reduced as much as possible (doh, that's idealistic i know), that people are being treated about equally, because we are a civilized world. Ofcourse I knew that this situation didn't exist everywhere.

However, I'm in South Africa now and the situation here scares me!

pollution is incredible! shit lying aruond everywhere...

difference between black and white is huge!

poverty is still very much present...

aswell as racism...

people seem reluctant to change.

I feel that we as Western countries are making so much effort to save the world and these people out here don't give a shit and throw their stuff out in the streets and drive cars that should be discarded a.s.a.p

It seems to me that the white population is very much against the affrimativwe action that's going on, thereby forgetting the fact that those "thieves, rapists and murderes" will benefit from eductaion and jobs and will develop themselves to make sure stealing and murdering isn't neceassary anymore! (to see it black and white)

About the health care....I believe over 50% of the population in Africa has AIDS or is HIV positive? No wonder when governments claim that there is no such disease present, thereby making help impossible. I wonder how long it takes for all these people to realise they're not only fucking themselves up but the whole fucken world!
I came here a liberal but I can depart being a friggan racist!

I feel there is NO WAY "the white man" can interfere in the situation here, becuase it will simply NOT HELP. It is for Africa self to decide how much longer they want to go on like this.
On the other hand I do feel that the rich countries can maybe have a more active eductaional help for Africa. As long as people are under-educated, stuff like AIDS and pollution will keep on ruling the continent. And don't simply send money, cuz that'll end up in the wrong places...send PEOPLE..send knowledge...send HELP...

argh this is depresssing...

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Nov-02-2002 13:17 Netherlands

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jp
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Holland

Proxi, you should become United Nations Africa representant.

Nov-02-2002 13:24 Netherlands

Miss Proximus
titelloos

Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Block II, Cell 13

oh one more thing.

Apartheid is indeed a Dutch word. From what I've read the Portuguese were first to set foot in South Africa, because they wanted a point there to anchor their ships and get new supplies for their continued trip to asia.
They didn't interfere with the locals, as those people didn't live near the coast at that point.

The Dutch did the same thing. They settled near Cape Town (which wasn't yet Cape Town then). When the British came, the Dutch moved inlands. Both British and Dutch people used black people as slaves.
The British were more progressive than the Dutch and tried to make some laws to enable black people to have some rights. The Dutch were very racistic and denied their slaves of any rights.
WHen the British tried to force their politics onto the Dutch they moved inlands, making sure the Xhoisan people had some land for them (stealing the land I believe)

Anyhow...there are many Dutch, British and German descendents here and I feel they are all equally being racists Which means some are, some aren't...heh

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Nov-02-2002 13:56 Netherlands

oDrori
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kibbutz Gaash, home of all the light in Holyland

We should undo what they want us to undo (In each country), then take the attitude we should have in the beginning, offer help. Forcing help becomes racist dictation.

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