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Yeah John Howard's a fool. It's not as though we were actually going to suffer by implementing the Kyoto protocol either: while most countries had to reduce emmissions over the next 20 or so years, we were one of the few allowed to increase emmissions. But if Dubya isn't participating, it can't be a good idea can it John?
Oh and Greenpeace? I'm a member of the Conservation Foundation (another one of those "socio-liberal-democrat" organisations - stereotype me how you will  ) and while all I do is send em $15 a month in exchange for the pamphlet, I am very aware - that although they have the same basic aims as Greenpeace - that the CF cannot stand Greenpeace. The two are at loggerheads (excuse the pun) all the time, and while I'm not sure why Greenpeace hates the organisation I'm a part of, I know that my organisation dislikes Greenpeace - as you have all been saying - due to their somewhat extemist methods of getting the message across. All it really does, in the end, is convince people of their stereotype that anyone interested in preserving the environment must be a sub-intelligent, neo-hippie cowboy, intent only on pissing people off.
Greenpeace lost the plot somewhere though..... presumably when they decided it would be more fun to commit acts somewhat akin to "eco-terrorism" instead of peaceful protesting and investing money into conservation schemes.
Absolute madness. 
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