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Lews
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quote:
Originally posted by BTG
I agree with OP. People are appauled at the fact that he said it..but for fucks sake..Have you ever been in a private conversation and said something similar in nature? Of course you have. Of course everyone has....the problem with people in 2016 is they get so much pleasure out of pointing the finger and womens rights and all that horse shit have nothing to do with that specific conversation.


I have never bragged about getting away with sexual assault and I have never heard any of my friends do so, either; if you have I would prefer you to keep your distance.


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BTG
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If you believe that Trump was only joking or that it was just banter, you're even more naive than the people you're ranting against. The guy had to pay off his ex-wife to stop her discussing the fact he violently raped her.


well I'm not aware of that fact, so forgive my ignorance..

but your point only further solidifies my main point which is:

Monday: Trump said something bad > World reacts insanely.
Tuesday: This just in...Trump said this > World reacts insanely.
Wednesday: Trump is a racist > World reacts insanely.

etc.

So maybe my point was lost in my insane ramblings...but it is this:

Everyone is so caught up in hysterics/outrage/self righteousness that nobody realizes that this isn't really an election at all. Pick Hillary or..well really? I mean the guy wants to build a fucking wall. He's clearly insane.

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quote:
Originally posted by BTG
well I'm not aware of that fact, so forgive my ignorance..

but your point only further solidifies my main point which is:

Monday: Trump said something bad > World reacts insanely.
Tuesday: This just in...Trump said this > World reacts insanely.
Wednesday: Trump is a racist > World reacts insanely.

etc.

So maybe my point was lost in my insane ramblings...but it is this:

Everyone is so caught up in hysterics/outrage/self righteousness that nobody realizes that this isn't really an election at all. Pick Hillary or..well really? I mean the guy wants to build a fucking wall. He's clearly insane.


Well maybe then before you start saying everyone's just fucking idiots for overreacting, maybe you should do your homework or at least educate yourself on the subject matter.

Ever wondered why Ivana Trump barely says a word? The very famous ex wife of a presidential candidate does one interview in 10 years? Because the settlement was a fully binding NDA and she'll owe him back the several million dollars she was paid in hush money if she breathes a word he doesn't like.

You think it's all a liberal media conspiracy that now 11 women (and apparently more on the way) have all said that Trump sexually assaulted them?

And guess what? We have Trump on tape directly corroborating these assaults.

1 or 2, maybe bullshitters or people looking for fame. 5 or 6? now there's a bit too much of a pattern, but more than 10? and the problem is nearly all of them have at least some sort of proof that they knew him or met him at the time these attacks took place.

You think he's a plant?

The actual truth is worse than that - the dipshit american public, making idiots famous, along with the help of the GOP for creating the political vacuum that allowed Trump, someone with absolutely no political experience whatsoever to defeat all their candidates, did it themselves, they didn't need help from Hilary.

These hysterics and insane reactions are because in most countries, you don't get to ascend in politics if you're a pervert/deviant/rapist/etc because at some point in your long career trying to get to the top, one of your opponents outed you, and you didn't get to go any further.

But Trump didn't go that path - this is a cautionary tale if what happens when you elevate reality TV actors to positions of power. The vetting process isn't done properly and here we are.

So bitch and moan about people going crazy but the insane part is that he was ever allowed to go past the first interview.

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by BTG
well I'm not aware of that fact, so forgive my ignorance..

but your point only further solidifies my main point which is:

Monday: Trump said something bad > World reacts insanely.
Tuesday: This just in...Trump said this > World reacts insanely.
Wednesday: Trump is a racist > World reacts insanely.

etc.

So maybe my point was lost in my insane ramblings...but it is this:

Everyone is so caught up in hysterics/outrage/self righteousness that nobody realizes that this isn't really an election at all. Pick Hillary or..well really? I mean the guy wants to build a fucking wall. He's clearly insane.


Until these latest revelations came out, the guy had a real chance of victory. Unless you believe every public poll is a plant, and every one of his millions of self declared fans are plants.

I know the reality is so outlandish that people keep reaching for some elaborate explanation, but Donald Trump really was nominated through legitimate democratic means, and people really are stupid enough to vote for him.


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I remember way back when he was selected as the candidate. Everyone just thought it was a funny joke and he'd never have a real chance.


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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Until these latest revelations came out, the guy had a real chance of victory. Unless you believe every public poll is a plant, and every one of his millions of self declared fans are plants.


what were the polls saying prior? while im sure there are many, many idiots voting in the US, surely he was never going to have enough broad appeal to win enough states? or am i being optimistic re the average american voter?


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Lews
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Look at the 538 forecast history: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...?ex_cid=rrpromo

He was briefly ahead after the RNC convention (standard post-convention bump and aftermath of the FBI email thing) and he got closer in September, following Clinton's health issues and other shit. He's never really been that far ahead, however. But, I'd argue, it's quite scary he's gotten this far at all.


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quote:
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Look at the 538 forecast history: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...?ex_cid=rrpromo


Without numbers that looks like a nightmare.

I thought it was funny when I heard one of his co-workers (cleans rooms in one of his hotels) say she never would vote for him. At the same time I also thought that's pretty sad.


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What this election has really shown is the rise of anti-intellectualism in the US and the bought-out media left. I wish the Republican party had someone smart up there to properly expose Hilary but it is what it is. I thought she was shit in 2008 and she is even more shit in 2016.


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'Expose' what about her, exactly? She's certainly few people's ideal candidate - she's certainly not mine - but the idea that she hasn't been criticized is a bit ridiculous.


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can't stand the guy however ...

I am having trouble finding any admission of assault in that hot mic recording.
It makes him look like an asshole. The part where he says "they let you" implies consent.

These stories make him out to be a typical rich white guy that understand their wealth opens doors of consent that would not be available to a poor black guy.

I've heard way worse in every area of life where men are around other men and try to bro out.


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