i thought about coming out for this party mostly cause i want to see howells. i try to go to his party every month in new york. but we were speaking to him about NYE (and why he is ditching us for you guys) and he said he is only spinning for 2 hrs. out here we are used to 10 hr sets from him and we tried to use that as an excuse to convice him to stay with us for NYE but he is pretty psyched to go spin on the west coast for the first time.

but i don't think i can do LA for NYE cause i need to save $$ for WMC and i am still praying i somehow find a phish tik for NYE.

i think it depends mostly on the club...spundae and ahp are top notch clubs with spme people that know about trance..i mean [email protected] have never seen so much people stand inline for a trance dj

lol... the people who were at tiesto were just a bunch of followers who read that tiesto is #1 dj in the world and so hes become the "in" dj to like for the hollywood clubgoers.. and that is what caused the madness at spundae. which is why i didnt go.

i think giant learned a lot last nye as to what they need to plan for this year. giant has barely had any events this year so i think theyve had plenty of time to think out their plans for this nye. im not sure if im gonna go cause im not to thrilled w/ the line-up. but so far the location has been announced so theres much less to guess about this year.

and pvd is scheduled to play in frisco around 7 or 8pm for only about an hour so i think he has plenty of time to make it down to LA and get here in time.. i think a flight from frisco to LA is only about an hour and a half so it shouldnt be too bad. hopefully he plays a decent set this year unlike last year. even though it was just nice to hear any kind of trance after hours upon hours of progressive house!!

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yep exactly... ppl who go to spundae are usually just a bunch of followers. Do you think they actually know the music tiesto is spinning? prolly not. All these posers is the reason why the LA trance scene sucks. BTW.. PvD is gonna be playing a 2 hour set in frisco. I think ill email giant to see how long his set is. IF his set is gonna be 3 hrs maybe ill go.

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Originally posted by wushuboy sebby... LA is a good place to live.. not a good place to party. Simple as that. If you to the parties here that feature trance djs you get all these drugged out asian thugs, old fobs, and worst of all ppl who dont know the music. Every time i've seen armin, ferry, or pvd in LA, the crowd sucks ass. Even when the djs signal for the crowd to clap their hands the crowd doesnt react. No appreciation. Its so bad. On the East coast however, the ppl know their shit. They really appreciate the DJ. Why on earth do you think DJs such as armin and pvd go to the east coast so often? Compare the number of times PvD or Armin have been to the East Coast to the number of times they've been to the West Coast. I've seen both scenes first hand. It's a much better vibe over there. Now.. that being said..that's just my observation of the scenes on each coast. That doesnt mean i dont like living in LA. I've lived in LA all my life and its a great place to live but as far as party vibe goes its pretty bad. IF you ever get a chance to party on the East Coast you'll understand what i mean.

COULDNT AGREE MORE THAN THIS

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Originally posted by tranceaholic i think it depends mostly on the club...spundae and ahp are top notch clubs with spme people that know about trance..i mean [email protected] have never seen so much people stand inline for a trance dj

I Heard so many dumb chicks and e-pudding dudes chant
T-I-E-S-TO, and that's all they know about his name.

L.A. scene really suz! it's still hollywood hip-hop culture....

JUST THE FACT that there is club go from 10-4 and then the
AFTERHOUR club is just plainly F***UP.
spundae and giant never have encore!

I prefer the EAst Coast Crowd.

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Originally posted by rudeboy69 I prefer the EAst Coast Crowd.

I beg to differ. When Sander Kleinenberg was @ Spundae in April 02, he spun til 5am. When Carl Cox spun in July(?), he spun til 5:30am. At Spundae, the promoters let the headlining DJ spin as long as he/she wants, it's up to the DJ's to decide when to end the night. I've never been to east coast clubs, but the LA electronic music scene is alive and healthy! You get all the E-tards and "followers" coming out to clubs when the big name TRANCE DJ's come to LA, partially due to the fact that LA still has a strong trance addiction. But E-tards and "trance sheep" are and have been a big part of this scene for years, since the rave and massive days. For the most part, the Hollywood types (ie muscle builders and strippers) have not been noticable at Spundae and Giant events, as these clubs are more about the music than the who's-who atmosphere. There are clubs in LA that are geared more towards these types of ppl, such as Club Naked and Rubber. The great thing about LA is that you can choose to see some world class DJ's on Saturday night (Spundae), and enjoy some eye candy (tits & ass) on Friday night (Club Rubber).

Trance came on the scene in LA clubs about 2-3 years ago. At first, only local DJs were being booked at clubs, and most clubs were hip hop oriented with a specific timeslot allocated for a trance DJ to spin. Eventually Trance became so popular that trance DJs were headlining, and clubs specifically geared towards electronic music began opening. Other genres of electronic music have exploded in LA over the past year. A year ago, Tall Paul was a HUGE and RARE booking for Giant. Now, we've got world class DJ's like Sasha, Digweed, Lawler, Tiesto, Ferry, etc etc coming here literally EVERY weekend. There is more talent coming thru LA in any given month than anywhere else in the US, aside from possibly New York City. LA has gained much credibility over the past year because it has become a more educated and demanding scene. No longer are all LA clubbers satisfied with a no-name trance DJ spinning some cheesy 5 year old records. LA has moved leaps and bounds over the past 1 - 1.5 years, and the rest of the world has taken note. For example, look at who is spinning at JUST Spundae in November:

Tiesto
Steve Lawler
DJ Dan/Guy Ornadel
Sven Vath/Richie Hawtin!!!!
Layo & Bushwacka

To further illustrate my point, here is a list of just a FEW of the Dj's I've seen over the past two months, I know there are many more that I can't think of right now:

Armin Van Buuren
Sasha (twice!)
John Digweed
Lucien Foort
Tiesto
Steve Lawler
Sander Kleinenberg
Mark Farina
Ferry Corsten

The LA music scene is dead? Hell NO!!!!!! We've got the world's best talent coming here on a continuous basis, and we've got two of the best clubs in the US (Giant & Spundae). I know this is the TRANCE Addict board, and many of you enjoy only trance, but seriously, there are many other great genres of electronic out there. I love trance, but I also love house, tribal, breaks, and progressive. I suggest you sit back and think what it would be like to live in Pheonix, Arizona. You think Tiesto would have even considered spinning there??? Ummmm.....No.

Whine all you want, but LA's scene rivals that of New York City, as well as many other cities in Europe.

If you havent seen the clubs on the east coast then i dont think y ou have any way to judge between the two. You think spundae and giant are good clubs? Pleease. You havent seen Avalon or Roxy. These clubs blow spundae and giant away!! Trance in LA is a fad. That;s why you get these E-tard and such attending. It's the IN thing now.

And your comment bout there being more talent coming thru LA in any given month than anywhere in the US is short-sighted. DC and Miami get way more talent than us. Armin has a residency at Glow. How many mp3 sets are there of Armin at Glow?? PvD might as well have a residency in New York. Tiesto goes to miami more than any other US city. And where are these places? the East Coast ;P


There may be good djs coming to LA but the crowd here doesnt appreciate them as the crowd on the East Coast does.

Hey Melissa.. how u doing? Still cant get over Roxy!! hehe.

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Originally posted by wushuboy If you havent seen the clubs on the east coast then i dont think y ou have any way to judge between the two. You think spundae and giant are good clubs? Pleease. You havent seen Avalon or Roxy. These clubs blow spundae and giant away!! Trance in LA is a fad. That;s why you get these E-tard and such attending. It's the IN thing now. And your comment bout there being more talent coming thru LA in any given month than anywhere in the US is short-sighted. DC and Miami get way more talent than us. Armin has a residency at Glow. How many mp3 sets are there of Armin at Glow?? PvD might as well have a residency in New York. Tiesto goes to miami more than any other US city. And where are these places? the East Coast ;P There may be good djs coming to LA but the crowd here doesnt appreciate them as the crowd on the East Coast does. Hey Melissa.. how u doing? Still cant get over Roxy!! hehe.

i am doing ok - i want to come visit. i'll b e in LA next week but only for like an hour while i wait to catch my connection to hawaii. you guys should come back here sometime. or definitely go to WMC. that shoudl be a cool meetup and a fun week.

i think i need to come see Giant to see how this compares. My friend went there and really liked it. Personally I think Roxy is awful - you just happend to catch an amazing crowd because it was PVD. He draws the best ppl when he comes to NYC. And though Glow gets a good trance line up i don't like that space all that much.

blah blah blah... east coast/west coast... blah blah blah.. lol im sorry u guys are wrong thinking any other city east coast - west coast - or central pulls even half the talent that LA does.. there is a world of amazing djs outside of tiesto, pvd, and armin. look at the line-ups we have here on a WEEKLY basis compared weekly to any other city in the US right now and u will see we have the most consistent stream of top notch djs coming in. trust me trance is not the "IN" thing here. the reason so many people show up for these big trance djs is because is because you have to wait 3-4 months for a trance dj to even be booked in this city. the "IN" thing right now is house & progressive. thats what its cool among the music heads to listen to and trance is so looked down upon. actually even progressive is starting to be looked down upon and everything is about house. lol the crowd in LA is fine. i read plenty of reviews that the djs write about coming here and they are ALWAYS commenting on how much the crowd is so into the music and energetic here. of course the crowds are different in different areas. la is not any worse than new york and new york is not worse than la.. they are just different. its all opinions on which do u prefer its not facts.

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eyesofdarkness, I agree with you. The purpose of my post was to dispute the statement that LA does not have a scene, that the LA crowd are "followers", and that we don't know our music/DJs.

(Note: I had a fairly lengthy response to wushuboy's last post but as I clicked the post button it disappeared into the world of unknown - I think they just upgraded servers so who knows. Here goes a brief synopsis)

Wushuboy, if you think the LA scene is completely out of the loop, I suggest coming out to Honey or Sugar or another small club. The vibe is definitely there, we know our music, and it's not a room filled with 2000 Etards (as compared to any given Friday @ Red). So is the case on most saturday nights @ Spundae when there is not a trance DJ spinning. Trance is not the "IN" thing in LA right now, as EOD stated. Prog and House are the most popular acts being drawn in by LA clubs. However, trance music still has a huge following in LA, as was seen at Tiesto (added that he was just nominated #1 DJ blah blah). Trance DJ's are just not being booked as often as in the past due to the popularity of other genres. It sucks for trance fans living in LA, but maybe it will give you an opportunity to experience some new and different music that will broaden your musical tastes.

I'm serious about checking out Honey or Sugar, btw. Great vibe, very cool ppl. I'll be @ Honey this Thursday for Doc Martin, if anyone would like to form a TA meetup, I'd love to meet some ppl from this board