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Originally posted by Silky Johnson Collateral circulation. Over time, in a stressed heart with blocked vessels, the heart circumvents or develops new pathways for blood flow. But of course, all that does it buy a little more time before the inevitable happens. The reason an LAD infarct is usually lethal is because the left anterior descending artery supplies a critical bundle of nerve fibres with blood flow; stop blood flow, stop nerve innervation, stop heart. But yeah, he would have survived because being such a fucking slob for so long he likely had enough collateral circulation to sustain him until he got treatment.

This is what I love about TA. No matter the topic, we will eventually get an informed opinion about what is going on

Anyway, I know very little about him (other than I really like his fashion sense, or lack thereof), and I wish him a speedy recovery... And a better health.

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Originally posted by ControlFreak18 That’s really interesting that the body will do that. Kind of has its own redundancies built in.

Yeah, it happens in the brain too.

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Originally posted by Silky Johnson Collateral circulation. Over time, in a stressed heart with blocked vessels, the heart circumvents or develops new pathways for blood flow. But of course, all that does it buy a little more time before the inevitable happens. The reason an LAD infarct is usually lethal is because the left anterior descending artery supplies a critical bundle of nerve fibres with blood flow; stop blood flow, stop nerve innervation, stop heart. But yeah, he would have survived because being such a fucking slob for so long he likely had enough collateral circulation to sustain him until he got treatment.

My high school agriculture science teacher was a long time chain smoker, and when they finally had to open him up for bypass surgery, the doctors/surgical staff were amazed at the new/ad hoc network of blood flow his body had created.

When I hear shit like that I always think of the penultimate scene in Terminator 2, where he's dead but the system finds a way to reroute the power source.

Dear health people,

I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34?

Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery.

I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age

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Originally posted by Lira Dear health people, I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34? Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery. I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age

Diabetes tends to accelerate the clogging of arteries. Even so, 34 sounds young to me even for a diabetic. There are some nasty mutations that can lead to highly elevated cholesterol and clogged arteries at a young age, including in people who otherwise seem "normal" (not fat or having an especially crappy diet):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famil...cholesterolemia

Sometimes people won't know they have this until they have a heart attack at age 35 or something. On the other hand, losing sensitivity in fingers sounds to me like the diabetes was poorly controlled, which can also be a real disaster for your arteries.

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Originally posted by Lira Dear health people, I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34? Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery. I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-in...-disease-stroke

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Having diabetes means that you are more likely to develop heart disease ... Over time, high blood glucose from diabetes can damage your blood vessels and the nerves that control your heart and blood vessels. The longer you have diabetes, the higher the chances that you will develop heart disease... People with diabetes tend to develop heart disease at a younger age than people without diabetes.

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Originally posted by Lira Dear health people, I didn't want to post another thread about heart conditions given that this one is already here so... how messed up does your body have to be to require a quintuple bypass surgery age 34? Some bloke I know has just got under the knife, and I'm surprised because he's not exactly fat as Kevin Smith, and this sounds way too much given his age. Apparently, his friends took him to a hospital because they were worried about his health (he has diabetes and would often complain he was losing sensibility of his fingertips) and, when the results came out, the doctor decided he had to undergo an emergency surgery. I'm stunned, and I wonder if someone could explain this in more detail. I mean, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly an athlete, but I thought you had to have entire planets orbiting your adipose tissue to need such a drastic procedure at such a young age

Number one factor is genetics. I'd be surprised if one or both of his parents and/or grandparents DIDN'T have cardiovascular disease.

If he wasn't managing his diabetes very well then that would only accelerate the disease. Diabetes has a major inflammatory effect on blood vessels and nerves. This is why your buddy experiences loss of sensibility (neuropathy) in his fingers. At 34 I assume he'd have type 1 diabetes, so no he wouldn't necessarily be fat.

In short, you don't have to be THAT fucked up to have that kind of heart disease at 34. Although diabetes IS a heavy hitter; I don't think people think it's as bad a disease as it really is.

I need to stop eating beef.

I feel like I’ve seen an increase in studies showing that saturated fat/red meat affects morbidity a lot less than previously accepted, largely because of an effort by companies that made highly processed food to downplay how harmful sugar is.