i liked "twisted" when i first heard it. THen i lovved "beauty of silence" and "we know what you did". But i can't stand "unkown pleasure" and "answer the question" Sorry...thats just my opinion. I still love Gielen's mixing.

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Originally posted by bonzaimad i loved Twisted but they have done 2 remixes lately that sound exactly like Twisted. Brooklyn Bounce & Cosmic gate - The Wave I know they co-wrote Twisted but too do remixes with the exact same riff and sounds is pretty piss poor in my eyes especially when i am buying them.......i could just play Twisted and save myself £12. i know other people like Airwave and co do similar remixes but the above 2 tracks are 90% the same as Twisted.

with all the pvd lovers on this board, would you dare put that pvd is a con man for all his stupid reworks and edits and what not?
i personalyl dont know since i havent heard most of them

Well lets put it this way.. @ least its their sound.. there are plenty of artists out there just ripping off other songs. I give credit to svenson and gielen for not doing that... Many producers make songs that sound similar to other songs that theyve made before there is nothign wrong with that they are just advertising their sound.. although it does loose originality

Imsure they will come up with better remixes in the future and new productions

have faith

Everyone will be singing a diffrent tune when the two of them start making songs under the Airscape alias.

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Originally posted by NooKLeaR i liked "twisted" when i first heard it. THen i lovved "beauty of silence" and "we know what you did". But i can't stand "unkown pleasure" and "answer the question" Sorry...thats just my opinion. I still love Gielen's mixing.

Make sure you are getting the unreleased dub version (aka Gielen - Unknown (Azreal's Reconstruction))

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Originally posted by liquidxxd with all the pvd lovers on this board, would you dare put that pvd is a con man for all his stupid reworks and edits and what not? i personalyl dont know since i havent heard most of them

er what pvd do is a re-edit and he didnt labelled them as his and most of them are for his personal use and its not released.

you can't expect a producer to crank out pure gold all the time. even good producers have a few tracks that many people dislike.

i find that svenson and gielen are really hit and miss though. sometimes it seems like they put zero effort into their tracks and sometimes they just blow me away with stuff like twisted and their remix of "free". of course, it all boils down to personal taste. some people out there might like everything they do, and some people might like nothing.

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Lots of producers use a lot of the same sounds and recycle old tracks, Its nothing particularly new

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Originally posted by valkyre er what pvd do is a re-edit and he didnt labelled them as his and most of them are for his personal use and its not released.

Thats a shame too.. i would love to get my hands on space brothers everywhere i go (pvd rework) i wouldnt feel right playing dj smidges reconstruction version on cd even tho he did a kick ass job making it! .. makes ya wonder why he wouldnt release such an awesome song


sorry to go way off topic.. but yeah
twisted is good BLUE BALLS

when you hear the cosmic gate remix you will understand were i am coming from, the main riff is the exact same!

also from what i hear Johan wasn't even there when Twisted was written

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Originally posted by bonzaimad when you hear the cosmic gate remix you will understand were i am coming from, the main riff is the exact same! also from what i hear Johan wasn't even there when Twisted was written

oh my shit... k, i just d/led the song and i'm in shock here... they didn't even change the instruments or anything.... geez... like i said... zero effort. ah wells. i still don't doubt their skills when they DO try. i know they can still come up with something great soon.

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hmmm i dont think its fair to say there con men. Infact id say these guys hav made a name for themselves for using a wide variation of synths and sounds, and the length of their discography is longer than my length of my penis which is really saying summing!!! So a couple of similar sounding tracks i think is ok. You get this a lot nowadays with most artists.

My 2 pence anyway.