Gaining just ten pounds feels so bloody uncomfortable for me, I can't imagine two, three, four or more times that. That's how I know chronic fatness is some kind of sickness, because nobody wants to feel that way. It is miserable at even ten pounds overweight. I actually rarely even step on the scale, I just go by how my clothes fit and how I feel.

There is so much poison in our society, from the beauty industry, the diet and weight loss industry, the nutrition industry, etc. I believe that these influences have clouded people's ability to eat and move (exercise) intuitively. Like how hard is it to know when you just don't feel well and energized, and that your clothes don't fit or feel right? How have people come to ignore their own sense about things or not be in tune with it at all? It's so fucked.

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Originally posted by CharlieJones Would you just stay silent if someone you care about was progressively getting larger and larger with the associated health risks?

What makes you think they don't know?

I gained and then lost 22 kilos in the last 4 years, peaking at 94 kilos, and I'm back to 72 kilos now (158 pounds, down from 207). I knew quite well I was gaining weight, but I had injured my foot (so I couldn't run as I used to) and I could only write my thesis on copious amounts of sugar.

I knew full well I looked like a balloon, and by no means did I fall pray to "fat logic" thinking it was all right. If anything, it was bloody annoying when I got back to my old gym-attending ways and some people assumed I was a convert after a life of obesity and Doritos. I knew they meant well though, so I let it slide, and I'm slim again.

I always thought "fat shaming" is a sham though, so I can't say anything about that in detail.

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Originally posted by Lira I always thought "fat shaming" is a sham though, so I can't say anything about that in detail.

I never thought I’d see the day Lira at loss for words

are you skinny b/c you chase after kids everyday???

also,

if your lust for children was measured in weight how fat do you think you'd be????
my guess is you'd have a whole season of my 600lb life

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In my experience weight gain tends to be a symptom of a problem rather than the problem itself. If you want to help someone to be healthier shaming them for being fat isn't the way to go. You have to look into why they are putting on weight. Are they depressed thereby putting on weight from a combination of comfort eating and a lack of initiative (resulting in a sedentary life style or inability to motivate themselves to take corrective action) or because they are a glutton deriving a pleasure from eating too much or the wrong things or is it any number of other reasons. The answer to that question will dictate how best to help them. There is no point in making a depressed person feel badly about themselves, that will just compound the problem; however, that same action could prove to be of benefit for someone who is simply gluttonous. My own weight issues were driven by depression (I once weighed nearly 300 lbs, now I'm 175). I can tell you with certainty that addressing the depression was absolutely necessary before I could motivate myself to address the weight issue, irrespective of what people around me may have been telling me with respect to the weight... since I didn't see myself as being of any value what I looked like or how much I may be hastening my own death didn't matter in the least.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

I spent maybe 3 years of my 20's in semi-decent shape, but the rest of that time was spent fluctuating up and down. Having been a national level competitive swimmer throughout high school only to suddenly retire, it left me with a desire to let it all hang out. I continued my voracious appetite without the calorie burn behind it. The freshman 15 was no stranger to me, nor was the sophomore and junor 10's. By the time I hit my senior year I was 200 lbs. I did P90X and got back down to 155 but that didn't last long before I was back up to the deuce.

It was only until a recent trip to the doctor where he revealed that my cholesterol was high and triglycerides were extremely high that the reality sunk in. I simply can't eat whatever I want and expect to be healthy. I am in better shape now than I have been in years and it's because I wake my ass up at 5am nearly every morning and ride the bike trainer, go for a run, swim, lift weights, or a combination. I also eat healthy, whole ingredients and have ditched soda completely. Being healthy requires significant planning and effort in today's convenience built society. It's easy as fuck to roll out of bed and drag my fat ass to work but if I want to live to see my grandkids then I need to put in the work to keep my body healthy. The two fatties that sit across from me at work get McDonald's every single fucking day and it makes me fucking sick.

That said, the culture of fat shaming kinda goes about it in the wrong way. Ripping into a fat person is only going to discourage them and they will probably eat more just to quell the pain of hearing those words. Educating and motivating them is more along the lines of what needs to be done, but framing it in a way that doesn't make them hate themselves. Making fun of fat people in the gym is hilariously counterproductive and just toxic all the way around.

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Remember the days when there was only ONE fat kid in school, and everyone made fun of that guy? Now all the kids are fat. WHO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MAKE FUN OF NOW??

Drake, possibly?

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Pfft, already been making fun of him for years.

The 90's were really miserable for the American diet. I know a lot of the obesity epidemic falls on Americans (we're #1 woo!) but it's rampant elsewhere too. Brazil's obesity rate is growing rapidly along with countries like Mexico and the United Kingdom.

Health industries are growing in the United States as well, promoting more sensible eating and exercise, and it's starting to catch on to some degree. But for every 1 fit person there are like 10 fat people. Eating healthy can get expensive and most middle class families just don't have the knowledge equipped to produce moderate and healthy home cooked meals. It's really not hard, but people get so ingrained in their routines eating fast food and watching TV that they pass it onto their children so the cycle continues and now we have fat fucking kids too. What a waste.

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Heh, relevant in the news today. Exactly what I was talking about.


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