Oh come on. The entry level of hyperbole has been set at "Western civilisation is collapsing" and you're coming after me for describing globalised culture as "largely interchangeable"?

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But, my friend, the whole point is that we're better than these morons

I'm only coming after you because I see absolutely no benefit in going after the moronic OP!

What happened if everyone became conservative even the immigrants? Who would we have to blame for the downfall of civilization?

Even Brazil went out and got their own Donald. Oh what a copy cat world we live in.

Seriously though, what actually is with this swing to the right and the popularity of clownish caricatures as politicians?

I mean, THE Ukraine is about to elect a comedian who's political experience consists of playing the current president on a sitcom.

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Originally posted by Lews But, my friend, the whole point is that we're better than these morons I'm only coming after you because I see absolutely no benefit in going after the moronic OP!

Ah, it's so nice to see you too. Still getting triggered by conservative dickheads like me who call Obama Oblunder?

Either way, I have my own doubts that western civilization will come to an end, but it will certainly be changed and altered, as long as these western governments with their liberal leaders continue to push unfettered migration by the thousands into their borders. That's why you're seeing so much strife and protest from alt-right groups, pro-white rallies in Germany, and more violent clashes between Brits and Muslims in the UK. I still believe in diversity and all that wonderful inclusiveness that we are still being force fed down our throats everyday by the media, but you can't really call a country "diverse" if they only end up importing one type of nationality or religion to the point where they end up becoming the majority. If you don't understand what I'm talking about at this point, then you never will.

That's because you are talking uninformed tosh. The largest immigrant population in the UK by some distance is Polish, the vast majority of whom have come to the country in the last 15 years after Poland joined the EU in 2004. Historically there has also been significant Afro Caribbean and Indian (Hindu and Sikh) immigration from Commonwealth nations.

If you think Muslims are the only type of immigrant being "imported" here, or even the most common, you are factually incorrect to an enormous degree.

I look forward to seeing this minor factual inconvenience have absolutely no effect on your world view.

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I should consult my sister. she would know what to think.

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Originally posted by BTG I should consult my sister. she would know what to think.

haha i made the thread b4 reading this!

but yeah, PJW is usually spoton even tho i cant stand his demeanour
even milo is right in a lot of what he says even tho hes a raging homosexual.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I look forward to seeing this minor factual inconvenience have absolutely no effect on your world view.

Need to remember this response for the next FB antivaxxer flame war.

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Originally posted by Zharen Ah, it's so nice to see you too. Still getting triggered by conservative dickheads like me who call Obama Oblunder? Either way, I have my own doubts that western civilization will come to an end, but it will certainly be changed and altered, as long as these western governments with their liberal leaders continue to push unfettered migration by the thousands into their borders. That's why you're seeing so much strife and protest from alt-right groups, pro-white rallies in Germany, and more violent clashes between Brits and Muslims in the UK. I still believe in diversity and all that wonderful inclusiveness that we are still being force fed down our throats everyday by the media, but you can't really call a country "diverse" if they only end up importing one type of nationality or religion to the point where they end up becoming the majority. If you don't understand what I'm talking about at this point, then you never will.

Per the latest UK Census:

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... almost half (46%, 3.4 million) of the foreign-born population identified with a White ethnic group, a third identified as Asian/Asian British (33%, 2.4 million) and 13% (992,000) identified with Black/African/Caribbean/Black British

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Of the foreign-born population in England and Wales nearly half identified as Christian (48%) and a fifth identified as Muslim (19%). Around 1 in 7 had No religion (14%)

Yes, the UK certainly is only 'importing one type of nationality or religion.'

If you don't understand what I'm talking about at this point, then you never will.

Are there any good normalized/cleaned statistics of crime in the UK based on the nationality or ethnic background of the suspect, and what do people usually think of those statistics? Is it ok to speak about them? I'm asking, because we're in a weird place in Finland right now: statistics indicate that foreigners and people with foreign backgrounds are suspects in 20.4% of all crime in Finland, with the said groups making up only 4.3% of our whole population. Yet talking about this subject on a constructive level is almost impossible, because some people are quick to label you a racist, and some people are quick to label every immigrant a rapist. The numbers I mention are from 2015/2016. I want to emphasize that these statistics are about suspects, not convicts, but I don't think that the general propensity to report foreign sexual offenders more easily than Finnish ones can throw the stats this much.

And to a simple person like me, more alarmingly:

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stat.fi: In case of sexual offences [in 2016] the suspect was of foreign background in 42.1 per cent of cases for victims of Finnish background. In 2015, this share was 23.0 per cent.

These numbers seem pretty gruesome to me. I'm wondering how to discuss these issues with people without them labeling me a nazi from the outset. Am I wrong to be slightly worried about this kind of development in my country?

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Originally posted by JEO These numbers seem pretty gruesome to me. I'm wondering how to discuss these issues with people without them labeling me a nazi from the outset. Am I wrong to be slightly worried about this kind of development in my country?

I'm not sure how being concerned about those statistics is wrong (although I do recognize that many knee-jerk cretins on the left would attack you for expressing such concerns). If one group of society is more likely to commit crimes, especially crimes against women, how can society not be concerned about that? Why should we not investigate why that is and take action to change that fact?

It's perfectly possible to not think that all foreigners are sexual offenders and to concurrently think that foreign-born residents are more likely to sexually offend than native-born residents. I think it's absolutely insane to think that no effort is needed to adequately integrate people from non-Western societies into Western society (or from one Western society to another Western society).

I really hate how so much of the discussion on these issues is divided between the far left (any discussion of race is racist!) and the far right (Western civilization is crumbling!). As with much contemporary political discussion, the middle ground is so often ignored in favor of overly-emotional identity politics and virtue signaling of one sort or another. Classical liberals and classical conservatives would all be dismayed, but I suppose their differences often appear quaint, now, compared to the polarisation we see before us today.