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SYSTEM-J
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You must be a fan of nonsensical time travel paradox movies.


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planetaryplayer
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Mattsanity
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Originally posted by Sykonee
A more interesting situation would be if, somehow, the entirety of pre-2010 electronic dance music was erased from collective memory, would any of those old classics ever be recreated? For argument's sake, let's also include any post-2010 remixes or remakes of pre-2010s tracks.

Basically, January 1, 2010 starts Year Zero, and everything that was created after then is all there ever has been.


/has been watching a bit too much Alternate History Hub



This is beyond my level of understanding

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Sykonee
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You must be a fan of nonsensical time travel paradox movies.

I mostly prefer madcap multiverse movies.

/Jet Li's "The One" is a classic, #ChangeMyMind


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djthunderbird
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quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
A more interesting situation would be if, somehow, the entirety of pre-2010 electronic dance music was erased from collective memory, would any of those old classics ever be recreated?


This would make an excellent topic while having a few beers in a pub. My opinion could go either way, but at the moment I'm leaning towards NO.

Several reasons. First and foremost, I think that the beginnings of electronic music were very strictly rooted in the socio-economic structures of the times and places where this music was created. To a large extent it was escapism from the 'ordinary world'. Circumstances today are different.

Secondly I'm a firm believer in "happy accidents". Loads of sounds that came to define certain genres of electronic music and which later became tropes were discovered by accident. To this category I add your 303 acid basslines, larger than life hoover sounds etc. Of course some sounds would probably still be discovered today. Perhaps the happy piano house sound, but would it be as soulful as it once were?

Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.

So yeah, if somehow we lost all of the pre 2010 electronic music catalogue, the tunes and sounds would most likely never be recreated. We would definitely have some new stuff though that we cant have today because of the influence of these eras.


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Sykonee
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Secondly I'm a firm believer in "happy accidents". Loads of sounds that came to define certain genres of electronic music and which later became tropes were discovered by accident. To this category I add your 303 acid basslines, larger than life hoover sounds etc. Of course some sounds would probably still be discovered today. Perhaps the happy piano house sound, but would it be as soulful as it once were?

Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.

Think of a track like Spastik, essentially recorded in one take as a live jam session with Roland drum machines. It's been remixed and remade countless times, but folks still seem to gravitate towards the Plastikman original. Now it no longer exists, and though in 2010 we have all the software available to emulate those machines, would anyone else have as serendipitous a moment like Hawtin did in crafting such an iconic tune?

Incidentally, I think Matt kinda' fluked out in choosing 2010 as the cut-off point in this discussion. In my opinion, that was about the time when (with a few exceptions) electronic dance music basically stopped evolving and became about refining everything that already existed. Thus, everything exists and is possible, but we have no knowledge of how it came into being.

Erm, this suddenly became a bit Biblical, hasn't it...


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SYSTEM-J
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I love how much mental energy you two are expending on such a nonsensical scenario.

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Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.


That's the exact opposite of what the Infinite Monkey Theorem states.


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Sykonee
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I love how much mental energy you two are expending on such a nonsensical scenario.

We have become those two dudes in Human Traffic, eh?


/Cafe del Mar can suddenly be heard playing in the background


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Thirdly I lean on the Infinite Monkey Theorem which in short proves that even if we filled our observable universe with monkeys on typewriters, they still wouldnt be able to come up with Romeo & Juliet.


That's not what the theorem proves?


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