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Verona^My
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Rochester, NY

quote:
Originally posted by dr me
taxes are important. the only problem is that tax revenue is being used to fund social morals. why do i have to pay for some poor person, or a large family? if taxes were just used to ensure good infrastructure then i bet many more ppl wouldn't mind such a rort.


Other countries have maritial law and rigid social structures so they dont have to pay anything to help the poor. Developed nations on the other hand, have to, because there would be massive social problems caused by that line of thinking. I used to think that way myself, but then I realized the faults of my logic. I used to believe that each mans money is his own and shouldn't be given to anyone else by a government agency, but then I realize it's a necessity to keep order in such a society.

If we were a dictatorship this wouldn't keep the case, troops would force everyone to submit to the will of the emperor, no matter how bad his policies, so such societies wouldn't need welfare or social programs. But, I bet a lot of dictatorships have some form of social programs anyway. Why? Cause it keeps people happy and helps national morale.

I really should read Machiavelli sometime...


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great article:
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dr me
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quote:
Originally posted by Verona^My
Other countries have maritial law and rigid social structures so they dont have to pay anything to help the poor. Developed nations on the other hand, have to, because there would be massive social problems caused by that line of thinking. I used to think that way myself, but then I realized the faults of my logic. I used to believe that each mans money is his own and shouldn't be given to anyone else by a government agency, but then I realize it's a necessity to keep order in such a society.

If we were a dictatorship this wouldn't keep the case, troops would force everyone to submit to the will of the emperor, no matter how bad his policies, so such societies wouldn't need welfare or social programs. But, I bet a lot of dictatorships have some form of social programs anyway. Why? Cause it keeps people happy and helps national morale.


what you are basically saying is that ppl are naturally morally corrupt and that they only want to further their own desires.
humans are pathetic.


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webmeister
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Registered: Mar 2002
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dr me .. how come u never post in the AU forum anymore?


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dr me
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dr me .. how come u never post in the AU forum anymore?


i would but the topics are crap, no offense


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netw3rkd
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Registered: Jun 2002
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I dont pay taxes. Lucky me and my Native Status. :PPPPP


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drewfactor
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

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I dont pay taxes. Lucky me and my Native Status. :PPPPP


Lucky you!

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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

i guess taxes are there..i cant do anything about them, ( i cant vote in the US ) sooo....i guess i would like for lower taxes, and lower all the dumbass taxes they slap onto every bill i receive in the mail GO GO GO Pres. BUsh lower those taXEs!!!!

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