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fridgefan
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As someone who likes follows classical music almost as closely as trance, I have to say, I don't believe Tenshi samples any specific classical piece. The melody has a bit of a Bach feel, but nothing specific. Love the song though

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quote:
Originally posted by fridgefan
As someone who likes follows classical music almost as closely as trance,


Like Wise!!!!
Which is why I was so curious about this so called classical tenshi piece... I would love to hear the original if it exists

AND Yes, the main Tenshi melody does have a typical baroque-style chord progression... But not really in the strictest sense.


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ShadoWolf
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quote:
Originally posted by Project T
Tenshi was nicked from some classical piece !


Tenshi is a Japanese word for angel (and sometimes for emperor).

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Kimmi
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Registered: Nov 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by fridgefan
As someone who likes follows classical music almost as closely as trance, I have to say, I don't believe Tenshi samples any specific classical piece. The melody has a bit of a Bach feel, but nothing specific. Love the song though


I have to agree, there's no part in Tenshi that exactly echoes a classical piece. But if you listen to Tenshi, it's really put together like a classical work. People think I'm nuts when I say that alot of trance is pieced similarly to classical music. But if you listen to it, it has a prominant melody and numerous other intertwining parts. If you can understand the music then you can pick it apart like a puzzle, whereas some people can only hear the song as a whole, not with individual parts. Maybe thats why I like trance so much?

Not sure if that makes sense to anyone. I'm rambling. heh


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b i n k u n
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if you dun wanna read on classical music mumbo-jumbo..skip my post.

nope, tenshi actually doesn't sound very classical to me in the sense of chord structure....too simple a construction and it actually sounds kind of based on the dorian scale which would make it a more pre-classical style. ligaya on the other hand has a very nice chord progression with a lot of passing 2nd inversions and cadential 2nd inversions to lengthen the whole melody.

Hmmmm...as i just re-heard ligaya...both ligaya and tenshi seemed based on the dorian scale....i wonder if that is ferry's trick.


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libra_1143
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Hmmmm...as i just re-heard ligaya...both ligaya and tenshi seemed based on the dorian scale....i wonder if that is ferry's trick


Yeah, that and that ONE synth lead!!!

But seriosly, the only thing I found, which I can't check out at the mo, cos I'm at uni was

quote:
Gouryella - Tenshi, uncredited, but steals melody from Light & Shadow (on CD single releases)


from a site about covers of Vangelis pieces at http://www.koert.com/data/cover.htm

I dunno if it's true, cos it's the only place I found that says anything like this. Who knows? I'll check when I get home.


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webmeister
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Interesting stuff about Tenshi .. will look into it


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CygnusX
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I've downloaded Vangelis - Light And Shadow and the melody is the same as in Tenshi, so it's indeed a cover What a surprise!!!!

Anyone got an idea where the melodies in Gouryella and Walhalla come from?

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Walhalla=Original


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libra_1143
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quote:
I've downloaded Vangelis - Light And Shadow and the melody is the same as in Tenshi, so it's indeed a cover What a surprise!!!!


No way! I was wrong to doubt then. I always thought it was by FC/Tiesto. When I found the site, I thought it would have been wrong. Ah well, it will be interesting to listen to Light and Shadow when I get in!

I'm almost certain that Walhalla, Gouryella and Gorella are originals. I hope so, cos Walhalla kicks too much ass to be a cover!!!


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Luke Terry
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Look, listen to Tenshi closely, u can hear strings, they are nicked from a classical piece The melody fits in with the strings...

I can't find the name but I have found something else...

Tenshi was inspired by an old Vangelis tune


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CygnusX
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quote:
Originally posted by libra_1143
I'm almost certain that Walhalla, Gouryella and Gorella are originals. I hope so, cos Walhalla kicks too much ass to be a cover!!!


What's Gorella????

quote:
Originally posted by Project T
Look, listen to Tenshi closely, u can hear strings, they are nicked from a classical piece The melody fits in with the strings...

I can't find the name but I have found something else...

Tenshi was inspired by an old Vangelis tune


Read the posts above plz

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