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Stanza
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney

I think this is quite disgracefull. This racial profiling nonsense is just going to create alot more inconvenience and it's going to slow down business operations dramtically.

Old Post Dec-22-2002 08:09  Australia
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Greedy
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NoVA/DC
Re: My disgust towards the American Immigration

[QUOTEThere is so much anger in me right now that it is hard to phrase in words... and this is all due to the ignorance and prejudice that may people have to face. I would would thiink that racial discrimination executed on a federal level would have been a thing of the past, but sadly, we live in the year 2002 and this still occurs.
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Its life, get over it.


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Old Post Dec-22-2002 09:10  Vietnam
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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
Re: Re: My disgust towards the American Immigration

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Its life, get over it.


Its easier said than done. Would you tell a black person to "get over it" as they remember their enslaved ancestors? I dont think so.


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TranceGiant
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: (Strudel)-City that never sleeps
Dunno

You gotta realize that this is one big fucking dilemma. Security..Terrorism...the policy of fighting it is a constant process of choosing the lesser evil. Well in fact politics in general is but in this case it directly affects us, the normal population.
I think we all agree that Terrorism is a threat and must be fought, the way it has to be done must be an acceptable path between "the means justify the ends" and "hoping nothing will happen".
Please consider its complexity....(which of course dont justify such incidents..I would merely call this a sort of "collateral damage" in the war)


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Old Post Dec-22-2002 21:39  United States
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Stunt
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Brussels,Belgium

Yeah ok, i understand. But the strange thing is they seem to want to hold on to the idea that the grass is greener over at their side but at the same time they seem to be poisoning that same grass.

Old Post Dec-23-2002 14:29  Belgium
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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
Re: Re: Re: My disgust towards the American Immigration

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someone: Its life, get over it.
Originally posted by Cyrus King

Its easier said than done. Would you tell a black person to "get over it" as they remember their enslaved ancestors? I dont think so.


you have to get over the 'checkpoints' everyone has to suffer through them and they all sux

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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
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you have to get over the 'checkpoints' everyone has to suffer through them and they all sux


But that isnt my point.. my point is that there are even more "check points" for certain groups of people... singling them out based on their race.


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Its easier said than done. Would you tell a black person to "get over it" as they remember their enslaved ancestors? I dont think so.


Yes. Just as we don't punish people for the crimes of their ancestors, people don't deserve jack shit worth of sympathy for the suffering of their ancestors. I'm of Native American descent and I don't feel the need to bitch and whine about the horrible things that were done to my people. If I did, then "get over it" would be an appropriate response.

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Cyrus King
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Yes. Just as we don't punish people for the crimes of their ancestors, people don't deserve jack shit worth of sympathy for the suffering of their ancestors. I'm of Native American descent and I don't feel the need to bitch and whine about the horrible things that were done to my people. If I did, then "get over it" would be an appropriate response.


Obviously you dont have any concept of respect. Im not saying people deserve certain things becuase of ancestral oppression... but an aknowledgement and respect of the issue should be taken into consideration.


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Arbiter
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Obviously you dont have any concept of respect. Im not saying people deserve certain things becuase of ancestral oppression... but an aknowledgement and respect of the issue should be taken into consideration.


Respect is meaningless if it is not earned.

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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
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Respect is meaningless if it is not earned.


I agree, for me as a Jew, I don't want sympathy or respect for what my grandparents went through. I just want the incident to be remembered so a similar fate will not befall others.

I don't think that racial profiling in airports is bad - most terrorist are form a middle eastern orgin. However, most aren't girls and don't travel in families.

As a foriegner, I to have had my fair share of problem with the INS/customs/airport security. I don't think this is unfair. I am not a US citizen and appreicate the fact that despite that I am able to live here.

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Cyrus King
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Respect is meaningless if it is not earned.

Look at the context in which respect was written in.


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