How can you guys say that ToTA's are snobs. I feel offended. You, out of all people, should know not to generalize.

I've only heard a few people be so demanding, what about the other fifty-plus ToTAs who are not. Its extremely easy to express your opinion on these forums. You can start a flame thread, and literaly every TA who logs in will see it on the top of the chart. So when other people visit all they see is flaming threads. But its actually the few, ten to twenty, people who just keep on amplifying their flaming. There are plenty of other people who found, for example Tiesto's set, amazing.

You can't possibly say we are demanding. I think there are many ToTA's on this forum, which gives rise to more "snobs" that lower the ToTA reputation.

Which personally repulses me...

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Originally posted by Dr. Z Its extremely easy to express your opinion on these forums

On the contrary. Not many ppl can express their feelings/opinions clearly using just text.

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I think the standards of some of the people here are way too high. They've seen videos from european parties and they expect to be the same here. It's impossible. Enjoy what you have, don't take it for granted! Consider yourself lucky that you live in Toronto, and not where you originally come from(doesn't apply to Canadians), cause you would probably never see those DJs live there!

The purpose of a DJ is to entertain the masses, not 5 individuals who have listened and analyzed all his sets. So if you are one of those 5 individuals, you can stop coming to parties, cause you'll never have fun!

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Originally posted by trancearmada i don't think that TOTA's are snobby, well not everyone. I just think that over time the standards here have been raised. Cause a lot of people can compare a performance of one DJ to another with a bigger background knowledge. Again this is just an opion, and I am sure not everyone agrees with it.

I sort of agree with you. I only got into the scene about a year and a half ago and already I feel less blown away by parties than I did at first. But still, I go to a party and I'm stoked to post a review and it gets terribly bashed and it hinders me from posting what I really thought or want to post a review. It's like, if you didn't notice all the flaws in the nuances of the way the dj mixed, then you feel stupid. I think people need to start doing more drugs then they wouldn't notice mistakes and be as critical and have a good time regardless! ( just kidding)

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Originally posted by OrZonE On the contrary. Not many ppl can express their feelings/opinions clearly using just text.

You are thinking about complex expression of thoughts and feelings. I'm talking about flaming. Anyone can start a thread and it will be read by many. A simple opinion of a person can become the hot thread with 10 pages of posts making it seem like many TAs are complaining.

Durafei said what I meant in a different way.

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Originally posted by Durafei I think the standards of some of the people here are way too high. They've seen videos from european parties and they expect to be the same here. It's impossible. Enjoy what you have, don't take it for granted! Consider yourself lucky that you live in Toronto, and not where you originally come from(doesn't apply to Canadians), cause you would probably never see those DJs live there! The purpose of a DJ is to entertain the masses, not 5 individuals who have listened and analyzed all his sets. So if you are one of those 5 individuals, you can stop coming to parties, cause you'll never have fun!

I totally agree. We could also be somewhere where electronic music isn't popular or even present. People should enjoy what we have in Toronto instead of picking a djs set apart or complaining about something you have no control over. Some people don't get the big picture...

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Originally posted by Heatscore I totally agree. We could also be somewhere where electronic music isn't popular or even present. People should enjoy what we have in Toronto instead of picking a djs set apart or complaining about something you have no control over. Some people don't get the big picture...

exactly

i came here 2 years back from the middle east and nowadays when i tell me freinds back home and in India etc. they envy me like crazy cos artists dont go that side...we shoould be pleased that we enjoy all these comforts

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee exactly i came here 2 years back from the middle east and nowadays when i tell me freinds back home and in India etc. they envy me like crazy cos artists dont go that side...we shoould be pleased that we enjoy all these comforts

I have a buddy at work who had 2 servants back in UAE and a another one who had 3 back in India.. Why do you come here people?? j/k

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Snobiness comes from high expectations, which you get from having a long-established scene. It seems like Toronto (and Canada in general) was one of the earlier scenes to develop and perhaps a lot of the burnouts are getting bitter now, or something. The UK scene has suffered quite a bit from snobbery (in London especially) where there was too much emphasis on the technicallity of the music versus the enjoyment of people at the night. This lead to the explosion of Prog & Tribal : but IMO there's a much more cautious and self-conscious vibe at these nights. Perhaps you guys are experiencing your mini-trance backlash which we had in the UK a couple of years back. Thankfully things are returnin to normal and 'trance' is less of a dirty word nowadays.

Just go out and have fun. Dance, drink, take drugs, track-spot...whatever. Just have a good time & don't feel disappointed when Tijs doesn't play Track#13 which you ID'd from his TE set from 1999. If the tunes aren't your thing then chat w/ your friends or somethin....but dont get yourselves a reputation for having a 'difficult' crowd as I know Toronto is a favourite of many DJs and if you're harder to please they're less likely to return.

Peace&Out,
Dave

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Originally posted by Dr. Z You are thinking about complex expression of thoughts and feelings. I'm talking about flaming. Anyone can start a thread and it will be read by many. A simple opinion of a person can become the hot thread with 10 pages of posts making it seem like many TAs are complaining. Durafei said what I meant in a different way.

I mean all of the above, there are different ways to convey your opinion , countless actually. You can say "This Dj was pure shit, he sucked ass and I want my money back" or you can say "This Dj wasn't to my liking". Simple, effective, nobody gets offended.Also, many ppl just say 'what', they never say 'why', do you know what I mean?

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I think all you guys are right.
I find that I compare dj's sets to their best ones Ive heard. For example everytime i hear ornadel i compare his set to his first show in TO and make my judgement based on that.

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