if you have a passion, something that you can do that you are good at and love, do that, you will feel better. dont worry about money because when you worry you just make the situation worse. try to see your family as rich, pretend you have money, what would you buy, where would you go out for dinner if you where rich, what cars would you buy, pretend you are rich at ever moment. no matter how stupid that may sound to you right now, it will get your head in the sky and your mind off your problems

you combine with what you notice...


it has worked for me!!, good luck


bondor

ps trancendentals advice is hella good

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hmmm it's sad walking around knowing that I have it so good when other people only have shit for life...

well I can tell you, we've had problems in my family 2, there have been times when all We've had was like 20$ but I can tell you, if you get your father to move his ass and maybe try to get everyone to help out as much as possible it will work, then it will get better...

I mean for example maybe the other 16year old can hand out papers or do some other work that doesn't affect school, well I thinbk you get the point...what you have to do is make your family realize that it's not as good as it used to be.....you said your siblings where spoiled brats, then maybe you should talk to them and make 'em realize that things won't be the same for a while...

there are lot's of things you can do but the most important thing is that you keep the faith, if you have hope...the rest will come by itself sooner or later

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and I think you should stop lending out so much money to them, it will only be bad for themselves coz they will stop trying and just think "ohh it's ok we can lend some more from him"...only lend them money when they absolutley need it, don't let them starve but don't let them waste money on useless things either

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

amazed by how many people here have similar problems.

and then I see this

and I think... is the cost of living too high?



does anyone other than me think that our society would benefit from a complete restructuring and eradication of currency?

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Originally posted by Mosaic and I think... is the cost of living too high?

No, it is not.

Educate yourself. Work hard. Make money. It's that simple.

People who are poor are such because they are always making excuses for themselves. It's not their fault; society isn't fair. Well, no, it isn't. Nothing in life is truly fair. But if you can stop feeling sorry for yourself and blaming everything else for your problems, there is plenty of money out there to be made.

Neither of my grandparents ever went to high school. My grandmother grew up living in a fucking tent on an Indian reservation with ten siblings and ZERO income; they were subsistence farmers. My grandfather dropped out of school after sixth grade to go to work to help support his single mother. But they didn't waste their time in jealousy of those who were in a better position. They worked hard to better themselves, and to really earn money. Together, they built a multi-million dollar company.

In our society, if you don't contribute, you don't get jack. And that's the way it has to be, in order to motivate people to contribute. So I'm really sorry for those of you who would rather wallow in self-pity than spend your time actually building a better life for yourselves. But no matter what you choose to believe, you have no-one to blame but yourselves.

My apologies if this seems unsympathetic, but sometimes the truth hurts.

Regards,

Arbiter

This post made me think that ive been taking my situation (my family, money, etc) for granted. Until now i havent really thought about it.

wait a few years it will be better...my dad company went under when i was 11...and for 3 years we were pretty low...money was bad and all the stuff we used to have was gone cuz my dad never saved like an idiot...now the money is better but im worse ive been depressed though most of it and ive almsot died a few times and i gto a real problem with drugs and drinking...but now things are looking better...hang in there and don't give ytou family money...it will only make your dad worse because he will feel so bad tht his own teenage son has to help the family out...my dad almost killed him self when my older brother did that jsut so the life insurance would help the family out for a few years...it will get better trust me...if u ever need anything you can pm or im on aim at tranceaddict991...hang in there

~Jay

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the first few minutes may be very disornating...remember to stay clam and focused...insticts could play a very important part here...so trust us..

Take it easy bro...

my dad is 61 and is still working to support my family....i'm the youngest of 3....and my brother is paying for my university....

atleast for us....my sis and bro are already working and can support themselves.... unlike your situation....
i can't begin to imagine how you feel right now... cuz you still have lots of siblings....

there's nothing wrong if you help out your family... esp. your siblings.... my brother paid for alot of things when we didn't have alot money....

i think you should confront your dad about this.... i think you should go up to him and tell him how you're feeling...and tell him that he should get his act together....
i know how hard-headed dads can be sometimes! Not willing to change their job...but still hoping for something to work out...

life can be really tuff sometimes....
i seriously admire your hard work...

good luck with everything and always think positivly!

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Originally posted by Tranex02 there's nothing wrong if you help out your family... esp. your siblings.... my brother paid for alot of things when we didn't have alot money....

after reading tranceaddict991 post and thinking about it... giving him money might make ur dad reley on you... so he might lay back a little....

so...i dunno...

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your dad needs to get another job, one of those steady payers you were talking about, convince him to get one, cus depression isn't gonna put money in the piggy bank
i'm not sure what your financial probs are, but getting a loan and consolidating the debt with a low interest rate to give some breathing space and pay it off with that jobs paychecks could do the trick

don't let them become dependant on your money, help them out when completely necessary, but it sounds like you've done enough lending

theres nothing really you can do, your dad has to do the business, you've done the best you could, motivating him is all there is to it

good luck, things'll work out

WOW..its VERRY refreshing to read a post like this. The same thing is happening in my family right now. My dad lost his job in Nov. Things are bad, but the main thing is I still have hope. I'm hoping the economy will turn up a lttiel in the next few months and some of the places he's trying to get in will consider hiring. Even though my dad used to make about 80 grand a year, we have nothing in savings. My mom's job is basically paying for groceries and basic costs of living and my college tuition. But maybe I'm going to have to take up a part of next semester's payment. It's all about taking it one step at a time. Im soo grateful for having a job for myself, even though its retail and it sucks balls. For all of you that are in the same position, dont worry, keep your head up. AND NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS.....MUZIK IS THE ANSWER!!!

I heard on the news that on a good day downtown a homeless person can make upwards $300.00 (if their situated in key locations, such as outside bloor subway).

They had a story about someone pretending they were homeless everyday, meanwhile she had a nice little appartment and a car (to get to work no doubt).

And of course this money has no income tax.

Now, lets say on average you collect $150.00 /day. That means you would be making $4,500.00 a month, or $54,000.00 a year. Untaxed.

Now for doing absoltutely nothing all day you would earn more than many people do working hard at a demanding job.

You strategically place all 7 members of your family (was there 7? I forgot,, let's assume there are) around Toronto, in key locations. With this set-up, your family will be making $378,000.00 a year untaxed.

Let's say you use the $78,000 to keep a small apartment or housing and food. That leaves you with $300,000.00 you can invest in a stable bond or something, giving you.. lets say 4% interest. You'll be making $15,120.00 a year just off interest of the initial $300,000.00


On a more serious note, I hope things work out. My dad just lost his job too, but fortunately he got a severance package that will support us for 1 year. He's just got to find a decent job in the meantime..

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono I heard on the news that on a good day downtown a homeless person can make upwards $300.00 (if their situated in key locations, such as outside bloor subway). They had a story about someone pretending they were homeless everyday, meanwhile she had a nice little appartment and a car (to get to work no doubt). And of course this money has no income tax. Now, lets say on average you collect $150.00 /day. That means you would be making $4,500.00 a month, or $54,000.00 a year. Untaxed. Now for doing absoltutely nothing all day you would earn more than many people do working hard at a demanding job. You strategically place all 7 members of your family (was there 7? I forgot,, let's assume there are) around Toronto, in key locations. With this set-up, your family will be making $378,000.00 a year untaxed. Let's say you use the $78,000 to keep a small apartment or housing and food. That leaves you with $300,000.00 you can invest in a stable bond or something, giving you.. lets say 4% interest. You'll be making $15,120.00 a year just off interest of the initial $300,000.00 On a more serious note, I hope things work out. My dad just lost his job too, but fortunately he got a severance package that will support us for 1 year. He's just got to find a decent job in the meantime..

I dont mean to start shit...but I feel that your post is just absolute garbage. C'mon, How realistic is this really?!?! WHY DONT YOU GO BEG RIGHT NOW!! GO MAKE $150 a day!