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Human Cloning Technology, if used responsibly, should be embraced.
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quddha
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

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Originally posted by ahlamalek
genetic engineering and cloning goes hand in hand, you can't talk about one without talking about the other.

sometimes i don't understand some people that agree with cloning and genetical engineered humans.

how about a country deciding that in the future all kids will be genetically profiled as to eliminate the ones with the alzeimer disease. that would be cool. then they decide that the ones with crooked and handicaped legs should also be. ok fine its good. then the midgets and giants because they don't fit the standards in place in transportation, clothing, etc. well uhm sounds ok, and then eliminate all those with tendecies to be lazy, alcoholic, violent, unproductive, weakly built, fatsos, etc etc etc.

what if an army decides to produce a super soldier (and that already happened), a dictatorship perfect from disease. _then_ people would say well, it wasn't that good of an idea... why take a chance?

my point is that its very very difficult to define a limit on this, as what is valid, invalid and pure craziness. in some ethnicities some traits are well seen in others badly seen. boundaries are impossible to be drawn.

I oppose cloning because its a pandora box and its better and easier to just keep it shut than to toy with the idea and tests its limits. it could backfire in some twisted way that no one here imagined or would ever be able to.

and for those wanting to bring back a lost child or some shit like that, well its life, get over it and make another one . also find a grievence counselor


You might change your position on this issue if it was your child that was autistic, and the doctor offered to remove the extra chromosome to make him a "normal" child. Would you embrace this technology or would you suck it up and deal with life? It is a very difficult decision. Wouldn't you want what is best for your child? Or maybe your child is going to be blind? Wouldn't you want to grant him vision with this technology?

All technologies have its downsides and dangers, and they also have their sci-fi fantasies as well. For example, Nuclear fission is a great source of energy, clean safe (yes it is safe, throw the nuclear meltdown myths out the door) and efficient. however it is also a weapon of mass destruction. Antibiotics, I'm sure you've used them sometime in your life to cure an infection, however bacteria are evolving to become immune to them. Even Automobiles, great for transportation, but they're killing the environment.

Thanks to the study of genetics and cloning, we have excelled so much in the field of medical research. Without the ability to clone bacteria, we wouldn't have a cheap and effective way to reproduce and study proteins and enzymes. Just being able to clone bacteria inserted with a specific DNA sequence, has opened the door to so many medical and scientific possibilities.

Every technology has the chance of "backfiring" but what would the world be like without technology?

Cloning is nothing new. We've been doing it for decades. Only recently, the media has put it in the spotlight, and we know how good the media is at scaring people (Y2K BUG!! Africanized Killer Bees!! Nastradamus prophecies!!). Unfortunately, most people are educated on this subject through TV, newspapers and magazines. Some through science fiction. They all like to stress the dangers of cloning, because people like to be scared (it sells more). Few have actually picked up a Molecular Cell Biology text book (boring as hell, won't sell with the general public), and understood the benefits of cloning.


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Trance Plant
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Ottawa --> Montreal

My view:

Cloning Homo Sapiens, IMO, should only be done to prove to ourselves we have the ability to do it...akin to a challenge. Once it's proven that human beings can be cloned, I can't see many uses for it.

I am against cloning for spare parts. WTF, imagine you're the cloned person and now you have to give up your life so that the person who cloned you can have your liver??

However, if cloning research enables/leads scientist to develop ways to grow organs in an otherwise viable environment, i'm all for that.

Ethically speaking, who decides who gets cloned? Do you clone interesting historical political figures, and if yes, for what reason? What's the interest behind cloning other than to prove to ourselves we can do it (basically to display our advancement in medical science)?


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DrUg_Tit0
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You don't have to clone a fully grown individual to form spare parts.


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