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Originally posted by Dr. Z I wrote a thread saying exactly what you mean here. But I was flamed. Its like, being a "clubber" offended them...

well he only just said it. you have to give flammers a bit of time you know.

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Originally posted by Dr. Z I wrote a thread saying exactly what you mean here. But I was flamed. Its like, being a "clubber" offended them...

haha .. that's why i said "now putting all stereotypes aside for a moment as well .. "

and noticed the wording in my statement .. i'm trying to be very careful as to what i say on these boards. some people here are very easily offended so saying stuff like this is almost like walking on thin ice .. usually u can smell a flame coming before it even happens.

but getting back on topic .. i said i think that TA seem more like 'clubbers' to me than 'ravers' but i (purposely) never gave my definition of either, cuz i know that as soon as i do, someone is gonna take it as an offence..

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Desidel, you should have went to Megacity...

to me, it's really hard to say what's a rave, and who's a raver, and all that jazz.

myself though, and this is my opinion, i consider myself a raver. flame me if you want, saying things like 'i haven't been raving long enough', or 'rave is dead' and all that stuff, but that's what i think. but i also consider myself a clubber too, cuz i like going to the club feeling, where everyone is classy, and handles themselves better than most (well, hopefully, though, there are many exceptions for sure.) so as i said, it's really wishy washy.

as for what is a rave and what is a party, raves i associate with promotional companies like destiny, ph, nightmare, hullabaloo, that sort of deal, where it's more about the vibe people bring and not some humongous headliner. whereas, parties i associate more with clubs, lots of people, and basically larger events, like guv...

i'm sure you can find flaws in both my statements, but that's what i think.

peace,
Ken

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Originally posted by Dr. Z Desidel, you should have went to Megacity...

oh believe me .. i wanted to , if it weren't for a bad case of Bronchitis ..

ah wells.. i think i woulda been upset at the fact that the lasers had a heart attack early on anyways, can't party in that place without the lasers..

and Ken, i've seen some classy ravers before and some VERY unclassy clubbers ..

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you makin fun of me?! bring it bizatch! *me runs away*

yeah, true, as i said, there's always exceptions to the rules... like me wait a min...

i love this time of night, cuz i don't give a shit what i post, haha

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Originally posted by mot10n as for what is a rave and what is a party, raves i associate with promotional companies like destiny, ph, nightmare, hullabaloo, that sort of deal, where it's more about the vibe people bring and not some humongous headliner. whereas, parties i associate more with clubs, lots of people, and basically larger events, like guv...

I agree with you 100%

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Originally posted by The Highroller Answer these questions: If you go to a club where a DJ is spinning trance/techno would you call that a rave? If you went to a club where is spinning trance/techno, and people are dressed up as clubbers would you call that a rave? If you go to a club where a DJ and people were dressed up as ravers would you call that a rave? If you go to a club where a DJ is spinning trance/techno and there was alot of drug use, mainly extacy, would you call that a rave? Does the fact that the event goes on all night make it a rave? What do You consider a rave?

1. No because it's a club.

2. No because it's still a club.

3. No because it takes more then that for it to be considered a "rave".

4. Same answer as above.

5. Well, that is definitely a big factor in what makes a "rave".

6. The thing is is that in North America what is known as "Rave" might be different from what "raves" are known as in other parts of the world.
So, imo we have 3 types of parties here... 1. "Raves" and 2. "Afterhours Clubs" (ie. The Guv, System Soundbar, Viva, Red Square)
They both run until about 6am or later. Both have Electronic music, and the crowd, well they can both have "raver" and "clubber" types.
What i consider a "rave", would be all night electronic music parties at a venue that is not considered to be a weekly event. A "rave" would be a special event, where the venue for 1 is not known until sometime prior, electronic music is played and drug use is a also a factor. A "Rave" can be held at a club, but cannot be set on a schedule like weekly club events are ie: Spin Saturdays at the Guv (this is considered a weekly club event). What i don't consider a "rave" are "House parties" or "Get-Togethers at houses" that go on all night, even though electronic music is being played... no those are still house parties and get-togethers!! And when i say house i mean your place of residents in which you live, not house music. The types of crowds at "raves" can consist of anyone. This is just my opinion.. others may agree or dissagree, but i could care less.

wells .. for one i agree with you. i personally think that raves are events that are thrown by promoting companies like Destiny that only happen on certain occasions and are not regular club events like Spin Sat just like Malice said ..

so i guess in this regard many TA's can be considered both clubbers and ravers since many of us have been to both.. but i still get the feeling that a lotta TA's definately opt more for the club party rather than the 'rave'.. i guess it's just a matter of preference and personal style..

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My definition of a rave is a little bit different.
A rave is a place where you could look to the person next to you, and know exactly what he is feeling. A place where no sight in the place can bring you down to earth, by destroying the mood that you are in.

And I have to emphisize this: I'm talking about not a need of drugs.

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Originally posted by Dr. Z My definition of a rave is a little bit different. A rave is a place where you could look to the person next to you, and know exactly what he is feeling. A place where no sight in the place can bring you down to earth, by destroying the mood that you are in. And I have to emphisize this: I'm talking about not a need of drugs.

In this case rave is just an urban myth. Drugs have always been part of rave scene and always will be. You may not be on drugs, but when you see that smiling raver dancing next to you - it's most likely he'll be high on something.

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I have a question... go easy on me, I'm a n00b...

If I try to sum up everyone's opinion here... does this imply that a bigger party with major DJs like PVD or Corsten (club, apparently) is likely to have less drugs going around than a more underground party with more local, lesser-known DJs (rave)? It just seems counterintuitive to me... popularity attracts trend followers.

I find this whole thing confusing. I asked my friend in SoCal and he said (paraphrasing) that an underground party is a 'rave' whereas a big party with major DJs that attracts a ton of people is a 'massive'. That's totally different from anything that's been said here but it makes more sense to me.

Or perhaps, a name is a name and the party is whatever the partiers choose to name it...