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Originally posted by JohnSmith wow, never seen one of those! too bad you can't rip it open and make that stereo EQ apply to either one side of the cross fader or the other. you probably could if you had decent electronics knowledge.

you can actualy do that? cool, can I find some info on the net that can atleast explain some things to me?

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what is trim even used for?

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Originally posted by S-a-M-u-E-l what is trim even used for?

trim/gain is used to increase the volume level of a single channel so as to much the volume level of the other channel, so it wont sound wierd when you change from a 'loud' song to a 'quiet' one

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the mid at 0, the bass cranked up a tiny bit, and the treble cranked a tiny bit less than the bass. I try to aim to get that clear thumping bass, and the little bit of increased treble is the secret to doing this. None of that distorted shit for me

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Originally posted by P`zazz trim/gain is used to increase the volume level of a single channel so as to much the volume level of the other channel, so it wont sound wierd when you change from a 'loud' song to a 'quiet' one

i still don't know the dif between trim/gain, i guess i would if i had it on my mixer. I was in the record shop the mixer had it but i didn't really check because i was listening to records and didn't have time.

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Originally posted by P`zazz you can actualy do that? cool, can I find some info on the net that can atleast explain some things to me?

uhm.. well, if you have no electronics experience, i would not advise it. theoretically, you'd just take the outputs of the EQ, and route them to the inputs of either side of the cross fader. then take the main outs and put them straight to the left and right mains where the output from the EQ hooked up.

i doubt in a mixer that old that it's all circuit boards, it might be possible. anyway.. i'm just talkin out my ass here, i don't even know if that's a doable thing.

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Originally posted by DJ Arsalan i still don't know the dif between trim/gain, i guess i would if i had it on my mixer. I was in the record shop the mixer had it but i didn't really check because i was listening to records and didn't have time.

trim and gain are different names for the same thing.

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I don't get how you epople mix with all of your EQs set at zero. All your doing when mixing is just sliding the fader over after the records are beatmatched. I'll bet you you start the cued record when the live record is almost over, when the last few measures are playing through too, not when the first breakdown is over.

EQs are a MUST when transitioning, especially when your actually mixing in between tracks. Notice how I differentiated the two terms, mixing and transitioning: when I mix, I don't wait till the record is almost over then start the new one...I usually cut between records after the first breakdown hits, during the bridge. That way you can squeeze in more tracks in less time. As for mixing, without EQs, the transition would sounmd like absolute shit...need to cut the high range, balance the mid, and fade and or cut the low to make it sound like one song, not one jumping into another, not to mention proper gain control and fluid crossfading with a taste of channel control.

It's always been a mystery to me how people spin with their EQs set at 12 o clock. My trebles are usually at 3, mid is at 2.5 and bass varies from 10 to 12 to 3. For me, having the EQs ALL at 12 makes the sound mushed and dirty...

well, where you have your EQs set has absolutely nothing to do with how long you mix for.

true, you need to work the EQs when mixing, but, the question of the thread is just in general, where do you leave them i think.

personally, i leave my mid at 0, and bass and treble up a bit, about 1 oclock.

there is no point to have ALL your eqs over 0, that just makes it sound louder, and can introduce distortion.

if yours are at 3, 2.5, and 3, then you may as well just bring them down to 0.5, 0 and, 0.5, and turn up your gain a bit, it should sound the same. then again, not all EQs are created equal, the better ones are more "transparent" meaning they don't sound harsh or boomy.

but, i do agree with you, the EQs usually must be worked when mixing.

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Originally posted by dJohn It's always been a mystery to me how people spin with their EQs set at 12 o clock. My trebles are usually at 3, mid is at 2.5 and bass varies from 10 to 12 to 3. For me, having the EQs ALL at 12 makes the sound mushed and dirty...

And when you play in a loud club do you not find the sound distorts? Each track is different but speaking from personal experience most of the people I see with the EQ's up that high are trying to make it sound too loud and end up distorting all over the place. What style do you spin? That can also affect not only the EQ'ing but the mixing style.

hmmm i seem to be the only one here who opens right up on the mid.. heres my usual settings

low: 0
mid: 3
hi: 1.5

to me that sounds the best, with the mid at 0 like some of u guys it just sounds... dull... i dunno guess its just me

i play around a little bit when im in the mix, but thats roughly my settings